Folterung
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Anybody know what a .410 is if you measured in gauges?
.410 measurement
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Shotgun Bore Diameter
10-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .775 inches
12-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .729 inches
16-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .662 inches
20-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .615 inches
28-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .550 inches
67-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .410 inches
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10-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .775 inches
12-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .729 inches
16-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .662 inches
20-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .615 inches
28-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .550 inches
67-Gauge = Bore Diameter of .410 inches
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The way I was taught is 10 ga-28 ga are the number of ball same diamter as the gun that makes up a pound. Thus 12 sphere with a 729 diameter will be one pound.
On the other hand 410 is actual not a guage but a calipher of .410"
Correct me if I am wrong
On the other hand 410 is actual not a guage but a calipher of .410"
Correct me if I am wrong
smith revolver cop
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I love my .410 (Winchester 9410), but the idea of saying I have a 67-gauge lever action sounds kind of cool!!!
Gatofeo
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If you were in Europe, smith revolver, you could tell them you have a lever-action 12mm!
The .410 shotshell was first made in Europe, where it was designated, "12mm."
Pinning down the exact year or country of its origin is difficult, but it was listed in Geman catalogs as early as 1910.
In the U.S., it was first produced by Remington Arms - UMC and offered in 2" and 2-1/2" lengths, in both shot and single ball loadings.
Early Remington ammunition may have both .410 and 12mm designation on the head, because it was intended for export to Europe and other continents, as well as for use by U.S. shooters.
Such ammo would be a good collectible today; don't shoot it.
Winchester began producing .410 ammunition in 1916.
About 1934, Winchester brought out the 3" .410 shotshell, for use in its pump-action Model 42. This shell, with its 3/4 ounce payload of shot, rivaled the 28 gauge and has all but replaced it.
I have a Marlin Model 410 lever-action shotgun made about 1929. It was only made until 1932. My shotgun is in fine shape and bears a serial number of U5XX. I have no idea what the U prefix means.
It's a wonderful little shotgun, built on the Model 1893 frame, and handles well. It will only take 2-1/2" shells as the action is to short to handle 3" shells.
The only downside to this shotgun is the bulbous forend on it. God knows why Marlin chose such a huge forend. The claim is that it made sighting easier but I've found it a distraction.
Nonetheless, some years ago I bagged two blue grouse in rapid succession with it, in the Blue Mountains of southeastern Washington.
The .410 is a good cartridge but for most purposes the 20 gauge is better. I later chose a Remington 870 Youth Model in 20 gauge as my grouse and thick woods gun.
It's wonderful: short, short barreled, light and comes to the shoulder naturally.
And now, you probably know far more about the .410 than you ever wanted to know!
The .410 shotshell was first made in Europe, where it was designated, "12mm."
Pinning down the exact year or country of its origin is difficult, but it was listed in Geman catalogs as early as 1910.
In the U.S., it was first produced by Remington Arms - UMC and offered in 2" and 2-1/2" lengths, in both shot and single ball loadings.
Early Remington ammunition may have both .410 and 12mm designation on the head, because it was intended for export to Europe and other continents, as well as for use by U.S. shooters.
Such ammo would be a good collectible today; don't shoot it.
Winchester began producing .410 ammunition in 1916.
About 1934, Winchester brought out the 3" .410 shotshell, for use in its pump-action Model 42. This shell, with its 3/4 ounce payload of shot, rivaled the 28 gauge and has all but replaced it.
I have a Marlin Model 410 lever-action shotgun made about 1929. It was only made until 1932. My shotgun is in fine shape and bears a serial number of U5XX. I have no idea what the U prefix means.
It's a wonderful little shotgun, built on the Model 1893 frame, and handles well. It will only take 2-1/2" shells as the action is to short to handle 3" shells.
The only downside to this shotgun is the bulbous forend on it. God knows why Marlin chose such a huge forend. The claim is that it made sighting easier but I've found it a distraction.
Nonetheless, some years ago I bagged two blue grouse in rapid succession with it, in the Blue Mountains of southeastern Washington.
The .410 is a good cartridge but for most purposes the 20 gauge is better. I later chose a Remington 870 Youth Model in 20 gauge as my grouse and thick woods gun.
It's wonderful: short, short barreled, light and comes to the shoulder naturally.
And now, you probably know far more about the .410 than you ever wanted to know!
I love my pump 67 gauge Win 42 and Hi Standard Flight King for squirrel. For game of a faster variety, aka roger rabbit, I like my Remmy 1100 in 67 gauge. My alltime favorite dove gun is my Browning/Winchester model 12 in 28 gauge. Short barrel and fast on the follow through.
Gatofeo,,your 410 Marlin lever action shotgun is somewhat of a rarity. Not too many around anymore. The short barreled model (22" I think) and the DeLuxe checkered version are almost never seen. I've never been able to find out what the 'U' prefix was for.
They were serial numbered both with the prefix and without it but there doesn't seem to be any differences in the guns themselves.
BTW, Marlin used to offer these for free to persons who bought shares of Marlin Firearms stock. At the time I think the stock was something around $20 or $25/share and you had to buy 4 shares.
That was alot of money then and it was right at the beginning of the Depression too.
They were serial numbered both with the prefix and without it but there doesn't seem to be any differences in the guns themselves.
BTW, Marlin used to offer these for free to persons who bought shares of Marlin Firearms stock. At the time I think the stock was something around $20 or $25/share and you had to buy 4 shares.
That was alot of money then and it was right at the beginning of the Depression too.
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Marlin came out with the .410 lever action again (when Winchester came out with their version) about 6-7 years ago. (going off the top of my head) Sales didn't go over too well & it was dropped yet again.
I wasn't aware that Marlin had built another one to counter Winchesters 9410 Model a few years ago.
Not surprised about the low sales figures. The leveraction 410's on a rifle action at first glance are neat guns.
They always end up being a gun in search of a need though.
The little 410 is just not quite enough of a shotgun round to be either a game or self defense round in most hands. Make no mistake about it, it will most deffinetly do the job but that small shot load needs all the help it can get in the way of a good shooter.
Pellets at 1200fps out of a 410 are the same as pellets at 1200fps out of a 12ga. There is just that fewer of them.
I shoot alot of 410 and have for many years. Realizing the limits of it, tayloring your shot size & choke and even checking the patterning of the gun with he load will do alot in improving it's performance. Those heavier 410 loads more often than not result in blown patterns in most of the tighter choked guns in my experience.
They can be a frustrating little jewel otherwise,,especially for a beginning shooter where unfortunetly they are often brought into play.
Not surprised about the low sales figures. The leveraction 410's on a rifle action at first glance are neat guns.
They always end up being a gun in search of a need though.
The little 410 is just not quite enough of a shotgun round to be either a game or self defense round in most hands. Make no mistake about it, it will most deffinetly do the job but that small shot load needs all the help it can get in the way of a good shooter.
Pellets at 1200fps out of a 410 are the same as pellets at 1200fps out of a 12ga. There is just that fewer of them.
I shoot alot of 410 and have for many years. Realizing the limits of it, tayloring your shot size & choke and even checking the patterning of the gun with he load will do alot in improving it's performance. Those heavier 410 loads more often than not result in blown patterns in most of the tighter choked guns in my experience.
They can be a frustrating little jewel otherwise,,especially for a beginning shooter where unfortunetly they are often brought into play.
Hi:
When I was a boy I had a single shot .410 shotgun (break open type) which was a "Hardware Store" special that was marked "410 gauge or .44 caliber". The manufactor was Iver Johnson or H&R. This firearm was a used "Hand me down" used weapon. Also it was "Youth size small frame.
Jimmy
When I was a boy I had a single shot .410 shotgun (break open type) which was a "Hardware Store" special that was marked "410 gauge or .44 caliber". The manufactor was Iver Johnson or H&R. This firearm was a used "Hand me down" used weapon. Also it was "Youth size small frame.
Jimmy
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