44 Mag. Four Screw with forward roll marks member opinions

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This topic has been discussed before but I would like to ask the members opinion regarding the four screw 44 Magnums with the forward roll mark factory mistake on barrels.

Specifically, if you have one of these revolvers or if you were to consider a purchase of one, does this factory error make the revolver.....

A. Less desirable

B. More desirable

C. Has no bearing on potential purchase.

Thank you in advance for your replies.
 
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A----and I don't even know what the mistake is!

On the other hand, I learned my .44 Magnum lesson a loooooooong time ago----mid 1950's, and have no need to learn it again!!

I'll tell it again! Most will laugh---a few will cry.

My shooting buddy and I are out in the "Gumbo Flats" (Missouri River bottoms---FLAT countryside northwest of St.Louis)----and all built up now-----and where you go if you want to buy a Ferrari---or a Lamborghini----or similar toy.

We have our .44 Magnums, his a S&W, mine a sort of shiny new Ruger---with smooooooth Ivory grips. It's August---as in hotter than dammit. Now he could well be named Mr. Magnum, because the walls of his room are covered with pretty much every Weatherby Magnum rifle made at the time---and he knows about .44 Magnums---and I don't!

We have the target set up 100 yards out. My sights are set by SWAG, and he's on the spotting scope to call the shots.

My back's up against a scrub tree, knees drawn up, two hand hold resting on my knees. I have six rounds in the gun, forty-four more in the box. Did I mention it's hotter than dammit----and the smooth Ivory grips?

KABLAM!!!!

That was the most shattering experience of my entire life---and he's laughing, fit to be tied---and pointing at me. I look down and see a red stain on my tee-shirt. It turns out it's from the blood dripping off the end of my nose---the blood's coming from the top of my head where the front sight smacked me---and he thinks this is hilarious!!

Now I was holding on pretty tight, but not tight enough considering the heat, the smooth Ivory grips, my sweaty hands, and his inclination to let me learn these things by myself. I, on the other hand, was not amused!!

I vowed, right then and there, to go home and get to work developing a civilized load for .44 Magnums ---never mind civilized never entered the minds of the folks who dreamed it up in the first place. That load turned out to be 18.5 grains of 2400 behind a 205 grain SWC, gas checked bullet----which I later was told was a hot load for a .44 Special---but nowhere near a Magnum. I didn't care----it's was civilized-----and ACCURATE!! I could put 6 rounds into 4 inches at 100 yards from that same tree from either my Ruger or his S&W---and he could too!!

The Boss Lady was quite taken aback by the blood on the shirt, but I told her it was all part of a learning process. She just scowled at me!

Oh, and that one round of factory ammo was the first and only I ever fired. I'd gone home, got out my trusty bullet puller, and ended up with 49 primed cases, and one once fired case.

Ralph Tremaine
 
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I have had several over the years. Never could get used to the position of the roll mark and sold them.

Bill

I think I'm in the same camp as you Doc. I recently had an opportunity on a very high condition 44 with this roll mark feature and I'm not sure I could ever warm up to it.
 
Are we talking about a 6" possibly cut down to 4" where the roll marks were previously centered on the 6"? I suppose that could indicate a change before or after leaving the factory.
 
Are we talking about a 6" possibly cut down to 4" where the roll marks were previously centered on the 6"? I suppose that could indicate a change before or after leaving the factory.

Doc is correct. On the 6.5 inch barrels, it makes the Smith & Wesson roll mark on the left side and 44 MAGNUM roll mark on the right side look centered.
 
Is this what we're talking about? I didn't even notice it until this thread. The bottom one is a Pre-29 4 screw shipped (lettered) February 1958 6.5". The other is a Model 29 from a few years later.

FYI the "forward roll" is technically more properly centered on the exposed barrel than the usual mark, which is rearward. Hope you guys lose some sleep on that one...:)
 

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Is this what we're talking about? I didn't even notice it until this thread. The bottom one is a Pre-29 4 screw shipped (lettered) February 1958 6.5". The other is a Model 29 from a few years later.

FYI the "forward roll" is technically more properly centered on the exposed barrel than the usual mark, which is rearward. Hope you guys lose some sleep on that one...:)

Yes, your 1958 44 Magnum is an example of the forward roll mark. Thank you for the photo.
 
Is this what we're talking about? I didn't even notice it until this thread. The bottom one is a Pre-29 4 screw shipped (lettered) February 1958 6.5". The other is a Model 29 from a few years later.

FYI the "forward roll" is technically more properly centered on the exposed barrel than the usual mark, which is rearward. Hope you guys lose some sleep on that one...:)

Some of you guys remind me of my deer hunting buddies, you could have just killed the a world's record whitetail and they would be standing there scratching their head saying but he has more deductions on one side than the other........
In my book he's perfect and deserves every bit of it, I will take that role mark from a machine that is out of calibration on a near perfect gun any day! But I like the oddball stuff :cool:
Thanks for showing the pictures.
Tom
 
The forward roll mark really looks weird when the barrel has been cut back to five inches.

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Some of you guys remind me of my deer hunting buddies, you could have just killed the a world's record whitetail and they would be standing there scratching their head saying but he has more deductions on one side than the other........
In my book he's perfect and deserves every bit of it, I will take that role mark from a machine that is out of calibration on a near perfect gun any day! But I like the oddball stuff :cool:
Thanks for showing the pictures.
Tom

Yeah, OCD can be a real curse.☺
 
Is this what we're talking about? I didn't even notice it until this thread. The bottom one is a Pre-29 4 screw shipped (lettered) February 1958 6.5". The other is a Model 29 from a few years later.

FYI the "forward roll" is technically more properly centered on the exposed barrel than the usual mark, which is rearward. Hope you guys lose some sleep on that one...:)

My 1958 4-screw has the stamps almost centered on both sides of the barrel...so I guess it's "forward roll". I couldn't care less, and it's one of the favorites in my modest collection!
 

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