scattershot
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Elmer may have been shooting balloon head cases, too, which have a greater interior volume than modern solid head cases.
.45 ACP purchase mistake.
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Eddie Southgate
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Handloader #254 had load data for several 250gr lead bullets using Unique (if that's what the OP prefers?). 6.2gr/Unique was ~890fps, standard pressure.
I agree 7.5gr/Unique would be a hot load, especially if you didn't watch the OAL" with a 255gr bullet. Some bullets seat deeper than others which makes a difference. No idea on Hunters Supply's bullets dimensions/seating depth.
Starline 45 Auto Rim case are the strongest. They are "built with the same integrity as our 45 Colt case." and "Our .45 Colt brass has been tested to .44 Magnum pressures...". They easily handle 45 Super loads.
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Eddie Southgate
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I bought 500 of the Starline cases as back up to the UMC's . I agree they are a great case . Was not really suggesting that the op start with Keiths 7.5 load but was trying to point out that what he got could be made to work in his stronger more modern revolver . I have used Elmers loads for years in the old guns and have had no problems but I did like Elmer suggested and started low and worked up watching for signs of ANY pressure problem.
Eddie
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mistersmith
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. Looks like I will have a go at loading these heavy weights once l decide how much powder to start with. My current powder in Unique.
I may even start shooting pins at my local range in which case this bullet would give me all the hitting power I need.
Cheers.
I may even start shooting pins at my local range in which case this bullet would give me all the hitting power I need.
Cheers.
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mistersmith
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Another issue came up yesterday regards my Hunter Supply 255gr bullets. If I did choose to load them into 45 ACP cases how deep should I set them?
Using the crimp line on the bullet would set them fairly deep, almost half the case. I could set them to the same depth as my 200gr SWCs that I load. Doing this would make for a longer OAL but would still work in my revolver chamber.
What say you?
Thanks
Using the crimp line on the bullet would set them fairly deep, almost half the case. I could set them to the same depth as my 200gr SWCs that I load. Doing this would make for a longer OAL but would still work in my revolver chamber.
What say you?
Thanks
scattershot
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Figure out how deep the bullet is seated in a factory round or a known handload, amd seat the new bullets to that depth. Not overall length, but seating depth.
Davinman
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if it were me, id start looking at loading them up around 1.240"col. thats what i load my 250gr LFN 45 auto rim bullets to, since your shooting the 45acp outta a revolver, you shouldnt have any problems at all. (BTW, 45 auto rim is the exact same thing as 45acp except it has a rim on it.)
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mistersmith
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thanks. will give it a try.
gwpercle
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More loads than you can shake a stick at, use acp cases if you don't have auto rim cases, the auto rim is just an acp case with a rim.
Many bullet weights , many powders , it is worth getting this issue (#306) just for all the new data. Loading manuals usually ignore the auto rim. Brand new Starline cases are available !
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I'll suggest seating them .335" deep. That'll use 50.2% of the empty case volume. Then using the 6.2gr/Unique I mentioned above, that'll use about 38% more for 88% used and should still be just a standard pressure load.
Make a test round & check that it's functional in your chambers. It may be close to the max. COAL" for the 45ACP but since they'll be used in a revolver that's not a issue.
(I've loaded cast 250gr LSWC bullets, with slightly more Unique, to 1.215" COAL that seated .366" deep in 45AR cases for use in my 325.)
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