45 colt and h110

A lot of my handloads are not SAAMI compliant, and are still just as safe, if not safer, than those that are.

My only "EEK" in this post is reducing H110/Win296 below the '3% from max.' that is normally suggested and that Hodgdon did on their website. If you need, or want, to go to a lower velocity, I'd suggest switching to a more tolerant powder.
 
TEN feet is a good idea, for pistols..................!!

Last week my chrony at ten feet actually flew apart from muzzle blast from my 270 with a maximum factory load.

One front rod came disconnected to the plastic sun screen....and the screen spun and rotated into the other front rod.....no harm done.... it still worked.
 
with the recommended charge of 25.7gr of h110 im getting 1105fps. wich equals 672 foot pounds of energy. im good with that now. and 25.7 grains of h110 is the minimum charge for the load data. so now im on the grid at least. my up the charge later but i like to work may way up slow. all you guys have good points and i thank you for your experienced advise.
 
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Jellybean said:
A lot of my handloads are not SAAMI compliant, and are still just as safe, if not safer, than those that are.

My only "EEK" in this post is reducing H110/Win296 below the '3% from max.' that is normally suggested and that Hodgdon did on their website. If you need, or want, to go to a lower velocity, I'd suggest switching to a more tolerant powder.
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i actually want more velocity but dont want to max out my loads starting out. cfe pistol powder and unique is what i would use for lower velocities between 800 and 900 fps.
 
muzzle blast/296

I could not get any consistent readings in my 357 -158 g JHP,15 g of 296. Contacted the chrono makers and they suggested taping a target over the wires, making sure the paper is not touching the wires, have not tried this method yet though.
 
im currently getting 1433 fps with 19gr of imr4227 with a 125grain jhp in my 6 1/2 357mag. im tickled with it.
 
Jellybean said:
A lot of my handloads are not SAAMI compliant, and are still just as safe, if not safer, than those that are.

My only "EEK" in this post is reducing H110/Win296 below the '3% from max.' that is normally suggested and that Hodgdon did on their website. If you need, or want, to go to a lower velocity, I'd suggest switching to a more tolerant powder.
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I have wondered about the whole 3% thing for a while.

What I find weird about that warning that Hodgdon has written in stone is many of their own data has more than a 3% reduction and even more so in say Hornady start and Max loads??

So it seems to only apply sometimes or am I missing something (yes I know my brain) but really??

Only thing I came up with was if making your own loads and not the "tested" loads???

I even asked Hornady why they do not use a Mag primer in their 41 mag data when Hodgdon says to and they pretty much replied with nothing. They said:

[FONT=&quot]"When we develop our load charts, typically one primer is selected and used throughout testing. The Federal 150 primer used in this testing performed well across all powders used. Thanks"[/FONT]
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lowe357 said:
ok guys maybe some one can give me a little insight per im fairly new to reloading and chronographing. im using 25.5 grains of h110 behaind a 250 hornady xtp bullet. the min loading is 25.7 grains and says i should get about 1398fps out of a 71/2 inch barrel. well im averaging 1735 out of a 4 5/8 barrel ruger blackhawk. i did a 3 shot average twice just to be sure. is my chrony screwed up or is this just awesome velocity?
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Your chrono is f----. No way you are getting close to that. !0ft is as close as I get with anything. With magnums or rifles, 15ft is better.
BTW, nothing wrong with magnumizing the 45colt in a Ruger. The gun will take it & you just make a big bullet better running it another 100-150fps, at least for hunting.
 
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Wow, some "funny" posts here I see. I'm wondering why everyone is acting like I said something shouldn't be done just because I asked why? I don't care what you do with your guns, I only asked why.

Just remember to load a proper bullet that will hold together under the additional velocity and pressure so you can make a humane kill. BTW, what are you hunting with your now more versatile Blackhawk?
 
45 Colt loads

fredj338 said:
BTW, nothing wrong with magnumizing the 45colt in a Ruger.
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Or magnumizing it in an even stronger gun. I've shot more 45 Colt +P+ in my SRH454 than 454 Casulls. I've got more 44 Mag's than 45 Colt (compliant) guns but anything the 44Mag will do the 45 Colt will do better, in the right gun. Starline & Hornady case are plenty strong too.

You can get more power from the 454 & 460's but I see the 45 Colt as more efficient. To get a 250gr JHP up to ~1375fps the 45 Colt case can do it with nearly 2grs less powder than a 454C and nearly 10grs. less than the 460, which is .515" longer. (The only downside is you get a smaller fireball. :p) I'm happy to shoot hot 45 Colt loads in my M460 if the accuracy is there, like in the SRH.

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I have done the load em hot thing. Duplicating 44 mag ballistics and using it for hunting deer. I hit my self in the bridge of my nose with the scope when I first shot the gun. Drew blood and knocked out a lens from my glasses.

You are on the right path. Find what is accurate and have some fun.

I now own a SRH in 44 mag that I do not overload. Full house handloads are enough. I quit hunting a few years ago, so my model 25-7 (iron sights) and SRH (6x scope) are now used for hunters Silhouette.

David
 
im going to be hunting deer mainly but also black bear. i carried on a 5 hour hike to day as a bear defense weapon. im sure lighter loads would work to but i wanted to load a few hot ones just for fun.
 
Personally..... bump right up to a 300gr XTP, or lead bullet.... 24gr H110 duplicates BB ammo right on the money at 1340fps from a 7-3/4" Blackhawk..
 
Loading for the .45 Colt should always be done within the constraints of the handgun being used in mind. You got a large frame Ruger - knock yourself out with 30k psi loads if that is what you want. While W296/H110 may be a good powder for such pedal-to-the-metal loads, I personally won't use that powder due to it's inflexibility and the fact that I keep my loads to < 25k psi and use cast lead bullets for which other powders are much better suited. I highly recommend 2400 and IMR4227 powders, which while they won't give quite as much velocity as W296/H110, still give high velocities and can be used in lower charge weights safely, which W296/H110 simply cannot.

Don
 
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