45 Schofield “SPEED LOADER”

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I’ve been researching antique speed loaders for a few years. Mostly how they related to the early Police Departments.

Extremely difficult research since the early speed loaders called “CARTRIDGE PACKS” were made of wood and designed to be discarded or “dropped” after use.

The Smith & Wesson topbreak 45 Schofield was actually a test gun for an early speed loader patented by Brigadier General John C. Kelton on December 8, 1885 and then again with an improvement to the “wood” design on December 11, 1888. See photo’s.

He specifically documents Smith & Wesson revolvers in his patent description including Other revolvers. At that specific time in history this would have included any topbreaks and the Shattuck patented swing-out cylinder bulldogs. It’s also listed in the description to be designed to reload a revolver in 4 seconds.
Very interesting research.

Apparently the U.S. Army tested the device seen in photo’s 1&2 and manufactured 200 speed loaders (cartridge packs) for the test. The device was not adopted by the U.S. Army likely due to the rudimentary design but I am finding written evidence of the term “CARTRIDGE PACK” being issued as standard issue equipment to some police departments in the 1880’s.

Because the early “speed loader” was constructed of wood and specifically designed to be discarded after use it’s literally impossible to find one today from that early era. I’m convinced that they were carried and used often in the field so the research continues.

The early Bell patent of 1879 (last photo) Patented In the city of Baltimore of all places was likely used by the Baltimore Police to “speed load” the BABY RUSSIAN.
I’m convinced this is a huge part of why the Baby Russian remained in service for over 40 years. Simply because it could be rapidly reloaded.

I plan on eventually manufacturing a reproduction of the Bell “cartridge pack” of 1879 and testing it on the Baby Russian. It will be made primarily of wood with a matching design seen in the original patent drawing.


Murph
 

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Speed loaders, like stripper clip loading for military rifle magazines, was a very positive step forward. Nobody wants to die of the embarrassment of having an empty weapon in a gun fight!
 
In the line of duty

That’s 100% true.
I also read that the early Merwin & Hulbert double action revolvers that were standard issue of the Cleveland and Chicago Police Departments were replaced by the Smith & Wesson model 3 topbreak 38 double actions.
This was primarily due to a Police officer being killed by multiple armed suspects who rushed him because he could not reload his Merwin & Hulbert double action revolver fast enough. They unload fast but you still have to drop one in at a time.

The only difference with the Smith and Wesson 38 topbreak double action is that it could be “SPEED LOADED”…..A speed loader in the right hands is very fast.

Murph
 
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Looking at the patent (I looked it up) it sounds almost identical to a modern HKS, it sounds like it worked the exact same way, so I guess you are just building a wooden HKS?
 
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Actually the Bell Cartridge Pack was basically a disc shaped like a Silver dollar that you pulled out of a wooden cartridge block.
When I have time to fabricate one I’ll post it.
It obviously worked very well. The HKS speed loader as you know works by twisting a knob to release the rounds into the cylinder.

The Bell patent of 1879 works by twisting the silver dollar size disc first clockwise to lock the rounds into the disc, then lift the cartridges out of the block, dump them into the cylinder and twist the disc counter clockwise to release the rounds. Then toss the disc(discard) like tossing a poker chip.
So it’s twist, extract, dump, counter twist, toss. That fast.

The design is perfect, fast, and easy to carry.
I plan on making the block and alignment dowel out of wood but the actual disc will likely be aluminum since it will not be a disposable loader. I want it to continue to function not just one time and toss it. Again, the original wood disc was designed to be used once and discarded. I believe that’s the sole reason you can’t find them today.

Murph
 
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