.455 webley ?

[11e40]

picked up a mk11 hand ejector .455 webley today. really nice & unmolested. can you shoot .45 auto rim in these revlovers? thanks.

 

[Modified]

Unless it has been modified, no you cannot.

The Autorim Rim is much much thicker then .455 Webley and it won't fit in the gun.

 

[murphydog]

The .455 Mk II round is shorter than the .45 Auto Rim, so they are not interchangeable. Plenty of 1917 Army and other .45 ACP/Auto Rim revolvers you can use, however, and someone out there would probably be willing to trade for your .455.

 

[Iggy]

You might want to read this thread.

http://britishmilitariaforums.yuku....LVERS-ALTERED--SHOOT-45-ACP--45-Auto-Rim.html

 

[Modified]

Webley is designed for 14,000 psi .455 cal rounds. 45ACP/AR .452 cal equal proof loads for the Webleys at 19,000 + psi.

I've seen Webley cylinders blown in half by 45ACP rounds.

Smith & Wesson cylinders? I was aware of Webleys doing this, but I've never seen a picture of a S&W with this issue. I had a triple lock that was modified for .45ACP/AR with the plate shaved and it seemed to be just fine.

 

[Jack Flash]

picked up a mk11 hand ejector .455 webley today. really nice & unmolested. can you shoot .45 auto rim in these revlovers? thanks.

Since it is really nice and unmolested, it would be very wise to keep it that way. So do not convert it to fire something more easily available.

Besides, there is no real need to convert it. Hornady and Fiocchi make .455 Webley Mk II ammunition. Of course, it is a little pricey, but most folks don't shoot an old collectable gun much anyways. If you want to do a lot of shooting, buy something chambered for a commonly available cartridge.

 

[glowe]

Smith & Wesson cylinders? I was aware of Webleys doing this, but I've never seen a picture of a S&W with this issue. I had a triple lock that was modified for .45ACP/AR with the plate shaved and it seemed to be just fine.

There has been many threads on this topic in the Forum, but most posters tend to err on the side of caution. S&W may be stronger than Webleys, but the fact remains that they were designed for only one cartridge, the .455. I have seen factory loads of 454ACP going up beyond 24,000 psi, which is 40% above that of 455. Many have been modified to handle many calibers that use the .45 bullet and there have been no notices on this Forum of blown up S&W .455s but I would not want to be the first.

Besides, if you have seen the prices realized for unmolested 455s recently, it would be wise to leave an original as is.

 

[flagman1776]

If brass & ammo are available... far better to buy ammo or a simple reloading set up. I have not gone to the resource shelf to check "Cartridges of the World" but it might be possible to convert other brass to chamber in your gun but since correct brass is obtainable, silly to convert brass unless your time & labor are worth nothing.

 

[Muley Gil]

.45 Colt and .45 Schofield brass can be shortened and the rim thinned FROM THE FRONT.

 

[11e40]

this gun is too nice to molest. cylinder has not been modified. probably just let it rest in the safe. thanks for the replies, john.

 

[DWalt]

Many of these were modified to accept .45 Colt cartridges. Are you certain that yours isn't one of them?

I wouldn't recommend an original .455 S&W as a shooter due to the ammunition supply problem. Nor would I recommend a conversion to .45 ACP, .45 AR, or .45 Colt if it's in nice condition. Either keep it as a good collectible or trade it off for something you can shoot.

 

[11e40]

it won't accept .ar or .colt.45 & the #'s are on the back of the cylinder. I guess I wil find some .455 eley ammo just because I like to have ammo for all my odd calibers also. thanks, john.

 

[Modified]

it won't accept .ar or .colt.45 & the #'s are on the back of the cylinder. I guess I wil find some .455 eley ammo just because I like to have ammo for all my odd calibers also. thanks, john.

Fiocchi still makes it, a quick google should come up with it for you at about 30 bucks a box of 50. It's really not that bad at all.