45LC Glaser Safety Slugs

[Hoytshooter]

Anybody have any experience with these? Thinking about getting some to try and then use a mix of Glasers and Silvertip 225 JHP in my two S&W Mountain Guns.

 

[Hoytshooter]

Anybody have any experience with these? Thinking about getting some to try and then use a mix of Glasers and Silvertip 225 JHP in my two S&W Mountain Guns.

 

[WR Moore]

Never tried the stuff in anything but .38 Spl. Point of impact was drastically different. I used it for awhile putting down various critters and rapidly grew disenchanted with the lack of penetration.

The rounds will also come apart on any barriers that may pop up: branches, limbs of the body and in one case, teeth.

 

[Erich]

I drank the Glaser Kool-Aid back in the '80s when everyone was pushing kinetic energy as the be-all and end-all. Now that I've worked on over 200 handgun killings, I wouldn't have them in my gun. See my sig line . . .

 

[arfmel]

I would prefer the old fashioned lead RN flat point to the Glasers, myself.

 

[Agent6-3/8]

I wouldn't touch 'em with a 10 foot pole.

 

[dirtygrunt95]

I use the buffalo bore 255 SWC keith load. It chrono's 949fps out of the mountain gun, but isn't a +p load. A little stiffer than cowboy loads but not obnoxious.

 

[flop-shank]

Stick with the Silvertips. You will always have deep penetration, one recoil impulse, one point of impact and a cheaper ammo bill. If for some reason you're not happy with the Silvertips, Corbon DPX, and Speer Gold Dots might be worth looking into.

 

[Guest]

Originally posted by Erich:...I wouldn't have them in my gun....

Erich; You sound VERY positive about this "issue" could you enlighten me a bit? If you prefer to do this 'off line' my email is in my profile.

 

[Spotteddog]

Like Erich, I too went "off the reservation" for a time? Not on Glasers, but on light weight jacketed hollow points. Then advancing age and recalling the damage I'd seen done with supposedly old, low tech so called obsolete calibers and bullets, gave me the Aqua-Velva slap I needed. Now I realize that a lot of people far smarter than I that passed before me after devoting an adult lifetime to the subject came to the conclusion, "there's no magic bullet". While not satisfying perhaps, it is undeniable?

 

[GatorFarmer]

Glaser seems most suspectible to quality control issues of the various specialty (frangible) makes. At least that's the brand most complained about.

The odd bullet weight leads to problems with getting a weapon zeroed for them, and once you do, there's no readily handy practice substitute for them.

The high cost further precludes much in the way of practice/testing.

Thus even if they did work precisely as claimed, they'd still be problematic in terms of learning to use them, stocking a sufficient supply, rotating them, etc.

 

[Hoytshooter]

Thanks, guys for the info, most interesting. If I remember correctly the Glasers were originally designed for use by the first sky marshals because they didn't want to run the risk of a round penetrating the fuselage of the plane and causing problems. Since then they've learned "explosive decompression" is more Hollywood hype than real fact.

Personally I do prefer using something along the lines of Silvertips or Gold Dots.

 

[moxie]

I've never used Glasers in .45LC, but have used them a lot, over the last 20 years, in .38 Spl., .357 Mag., .44 Spl., and .45 ACP. In each of these calibers, in a variety of guns, I've found point of impact to be virtually the same as standard factory FMJ and JHP rounds. They shoot where you aim them. I've never experienced a failure to fire, feed, or eject either. I use them not because I'm looking for a "magic bullet," but because I'm worried about over penetration in an urban environment. They tend to break up when they go through drywall. That's what I want. Do they have the same terminal ballistics as a Gold Dot, or Golden Saber? Probably not. Are they "good enough," will they do the job, when you factor in the "frangibility" factor? I think so. Base your decision on what you expect out of their terminal ballistics. Based on quite a few years' experience with them, they shoot and work just fine, so don't discount them because of stories or anecdotes. Mixing them with JHPs is one approach, placing the Glasers up first, perhaps the first two or three rounds, followed up by the JHPs of your choice. I've done this with several guns and POI is indistinguishable between the different rounds. Try them in your guns and see for yourself. Your mileage may vary. Good luck!

 

[kmrcstintn]

Stick with the Silvertips. You will always have deep penetration, one recoil impulse, one point of impact and a cheaper ammo bill. If for some reason you're not happy with the Silvertips, Corbon DPX, and Speer Gold Dots might be worth looking into.

even though my shooting platform is different in .45LC, I opted to use Blazer aluminum cased 200gr jhp (turns out it is a Speer Gold Dot) as my primary and have shot some of the Winchester Silvertip 225gr jhp's; both are good choices; the Federal lswchp's look like another good one, but this is rare in my neck of the woods right now

as far as a solid leadhead for penetration (woods walking) I opted to go with Remington Express (yellow & green box) 225gr lswc since it offers better velocity than heavier & slower cowboy loads

forgot to mention...Uberti Cattleman Hombre w/ 4.75" barrel (Colt 1873 SAA clone) so I don't play with hotrod loads that would harm my gun;

 

[animalmother]

Only Glasers I ever owned were in 10mm Auto. Near 700 FPE. Sounded good on paper. Not sure how they would really have worked if I had used them.