5” Performance Center... does this look normal?

[bigwheelzip]

Good catch right here. Do you have anymore info on the ammo that you speak of?

Sorry, no, but the info most likely came to me on this forum.

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[Stetto]

Tsb3 and I seem to have something in common here. This is the barrel of my M&P9 PC 5" after a couple hundred rounds; yes, cleaned and oiled BEFORE round one...

I actually thought this was supposed to be normal.

I also have a Shield 9 with well over 2000 rounds through it without even any wear in the bluing. How many calls to customer service might it take before they perceive a recurring issue?

 

[Tsb3]

Stetto that looks very similar to mine. Definitely don't think that it is right. Imagine how badly chewed up the barrel would be after a 1000 rounds.
I have a Shield 9 with 1500+ thru it, and like you said, barely even a mark in the bluing.
Mines going back. S&W sent me a return label, can't wait to hear what they have to say.

Does your slide have a machined lip around the inside at the muzzle?

 

[Stetto]

Stetto that looks very similar to mine. Definitely don't think that it is right. Imagine how badly chewed up the barrel would be after a 1000 rounds.
I have a Shield 9 with 1500+ thru it, and like you said, barely even a mark in the bluing.
Mines going back. S&W sent me a return label, can't wait to hear what they have to say.

Does your slide have a machined lip around the inside at the muzzle?

Yes it does. Is that not standard for the model?

 

[Tsb3]

Mine has a machined lip also, must be standard.
FedEx has my PC 5" taking it back to S&W. Anxious to see what they do or say.

 

[TrashPanda]

I would be surprised if once they have the pieces in hand and see what you have they don't expedite your handgun repair.
Write a nice detailed letter explaining your dissatisfaction with your purchase and let them know the outdoor range season is coming to a close rapidly. Put the letter in with the handgun. Give them some time to make it right, if they fail time wise to get the pistol back to you then call and talk to a supervisor. I understand your frustration but stuff happens, give S&W an opportunity to make it right, I'll bet they do.

You are absolutely correct about giving S&W a chance to make it right. I purchased a PC 1911 full size and lost the extractor at an outdoor match. I only have 400 rounds through it. I contacted CS and they gave me a 2 day air shipping label, they said 6-8 weeks turn around time. I told them I had a match in 6 weeks and they had it back to me in 4. I was impressed! The only thing I failed to do was remove the optic from the slide prior to shipping, they re-installed it but the elevation was way off by 6 inches when I got it back. I don't know how that happened lol. But a big shout out to S&W customer service and warranty department.

 

[Saudade]

Mine has a machined lip also, must be standard.
FedEx has my PC 5" taking it back to S&W. Anxious to see what they do or say.

Can you post a picture?

I bought a 5" ported CORE slide kit for my 1.0 The slide is marked 9L. There is no lip inside the slide. The barrel does "swell" a bit but so does the stock barrel.

 

[Tsb3]

Can you post a picture?

I bought a 5" ported CORE slide kit for my 1.0 The slide is marked 9L. There is no lip inside the slide. The barrel does "swell" a bit but so does the stock barrel.

I would be glad to attempt a picture, but it is currently in the hands of S&W. Tracking shows that they signed for it on Tuesday.

 

[Stetto]

I got a FedEx label yesterday, but the nearest shipping hub I can ship a firearm from is over 60 miles from me, and I'm not going that way soon.

The downside of being rural....

 

[Tsb3]

^^^^^ 60 miles... That stinks!

 

[Stetto]

Can you post a picture?

I bought a 5" ported CORE slide kit for my 1.0 The slide is marked 9L. There is no lip inside the slide. The barrel does "swell" a bit but so does the stock barrel.

Yes. I'm taking mine to FedEx tomorrow, but have time for a couple more pics.

From inside:

From the business end:

I can neither see nor feel any wear on the lip itself, but it can be the only surface with a chance of contact, yes?
If bullet residue were an issue would it not affect both the machined lip AND the barrel?

I guess we'll find out.

 

[Stetto]

It pays to READ, not skim, the S&W direction sheet for shipping.

They'll be picking my M&P up today, saving me 120 miles and 3 hours of my day....

 

[clone1008]

This is what my new ported barrel looks like after the first 300 rds, I did clean and lubricate before firing the first time. Is this something I should also be concerned about?

 

[Kraidle]

It's normal. I have a factory ported barrel with over 1200 rounds, and a Wilson Combat barrel with over 300 rounds for Production Optics. They both have the same marks. The Wilson Combat one is actually marked up with the cutout of the ports from the slide. The wear will stop after a while, and you'll feel it's smooth.

Stainless Steel barrels look worse for wear because they don't really have a finish like the Shield barrels or the regular M&P offerings. There's nothing to worry about.

 

[Stetto]

It's normal. I have a factory ported barrel with over 1200 rounds, and a Wilson Combat barrel with over 300 rounds for Production Optics. They both have the same marks. The Wilson Combat one is actually marked up with the cutout of the ports from the slide. The wear will stop after a while, and you'll feel it's smooth.

Stainless Steel barrels look worse for wear because they don't really have a finish like the Shield barrels or the regular M&P offerings. There's nothing to worry about.

Mine does not look normal, SS or no. I read nowhere in the S&W literature saying I may experience and odd, increasing wear to the barrel that would eventually stop and become smooth again. At over $800 new, what do you suppose resale or trade in value becomes with a barrel looking like someone twisted it in 00 steel wool and scored it with a jewelry file?

 

[Tsb3]

It's normal. I have a factory ported barrel with over 1200 rounds, and a Wilson Combat barrel with over 300 rounds for Production Optics. They both have the same marks. The Wilson Combat one is actually marked up with the cutout of the ports from the slide. The wear will stop after a while, and you'll feel it's smooth.

Stainless Steel barrels look worse for wear because they don't really have a finish like the Shield barrels or the regular M&P offerings. There's nothing to worry about.

I don't believe my barrel wear is normal. It has a groove around the top half of the barrel that catches your fingernail when rubbed along the barrel.

 

[Kraidle]

I don't believe my barrel wear is normal. It has a groove around the top half of the barrel that catches your fingernail when rubbed along the barrel.

You believe what you want. You asked a question, and I'm answering your question with my experience. I have two barrels, one being the factory barrel with 10 times the use yours has, and an aftermarket one with twice the use yours has. They both function as they should, with no malfunctions, and the wear stops and smooths out if you just keep using it.

Both Barrels

Both Barrels, second angle

Factory Ported Barrel

Wilson Combat with porting mark

Wilson Combat with 2nd porting mark

Mine does not look normal, SS or no. I read nowhere in the S&W literature saying I may experience and odd, increasing wear to the barrel that would eventually stop and become smooth again. At over $800 new, what do you suppose resale or trade in value becomes with a barrel looking like someone twisted it in 00 steel wool and scored it with a jewelry file?

If you're getting into guns with resale value in mind, I suggest looking at Glocks or Colts. M&Ps have never held good resale value, even Performance Center models. I'm saying it smooths out based on my experience, and the pictures I just posted. If you don't trust the weapon and want to get rid of it, that's fine. But based on what I've seen and used, the wear is normal, and you just need to keep using it.

 

[2ToeRacing]

I know that S&W SHOULD replace it w/o question. Has anyone thought about polishing the barrel to see if it changes?? I try to figure other way around things so im not with out my weapons

 

[Tsb3]

You believe what you want. You asked a question, and I'm answering your question with my experience. I have two barrels, one being the factory barrel with 10 times the use yours has, and an aftermarket one with twice the use yours has. They both function as they should, with no malfunctions, and the wear stops and smooths out if you just keep using it.

Both Barrels

Both Barrels, second angle

Factory Ported Barrel

Wilson Combat with porting mark

Wilson Combat with 2nd porting mark



If you're getting into guns with resale value in mind, I suggest looking at Glocks or Colts. M&Ps have never held good resale value, even Performance Center models. I'm saying it smooths out based on my experience, and the pictures I just posted. If you don't trust the weapon and want to get rid of it, that's fine. But based on what I've seen and used, the wear is normal, and you just need to keep using it.

Your barrels do look fine. Neither has a groove worn into them, as does mine. That groove is my primary concern.

Question for ya: Did you see any difference between that Wilson barrel and the factory barrel? Besides the lack of porting.

 

[Stetto]

If you're getting into guns with resale value in mind, I suggest looking at Glocks or Colts. M&Ps have never held good resale value, even Performance Center models. I'm saying it smooths out based on my experience, and the pictures I just posted. If you don't trust the weapon and want to get rid of it, that's fine. But based on what I've seen and used, the wear is normal, and you just need to keep using it.

I do NOT have resale in mind. I have never sold any firearm I've ever purchased. But it is a legitimate purchase point for many. The price of this particular model surpasses by a third the most I ever intended to pay for ANY handgun. So far, with minor issues that are being addressed, it's been worth every cent.

I'm also not dismissing your experience, but that is your experience, and mine is that I've never had a semi-auto, including my S&W nitride barreled models, develop any wear at all, much less like this. The ring at the end of the barrel corresponds with the shimming at the end of the slide, and my fingernail catches on it. I cannot think of any argument that will convince me that wear that deep is going to "smooth out" from continued firing.