About 6-7 weeks ago I posted a note here about a 586 (no dash) I had traded for at a local gun show without the "M" stamp. I had sent it back to Smith&Wesson for the recall modification and they gave me some recommended repairs. The gun came back today and looks/feels fantastic. Here's the rub: they did not put in an "M" stamp. If I sell the gun no big deal because I have the paper work that the "modification" ("M") was done but I am curious if any of you might have an explanation of why they did put in the "M" stamp? Thank goodness I have the paper work to prove that the "M" was done. Thanks for replies. -Jeepster
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About 6-7 weeks ago I posted a note here about a 586 (no dash) I had traded for at a local gun show without the "M" stamp. I had sent it back to Smith&Wesson for the recall modification and they gave me some recommended repairs. The gun came back today and looks/feels fantastic. Here's the rub: they did not put in an "M" stamp. If I sell the gun no big deal because I have the paper work that the "modification" ("M") was done but I am curious if any of you might have an explanation of why they did put in the "M" stamp? Thank goodness I have the paper work to prove that the "M" was done. Thanks for replies. -Jeepster
Sheldon
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They just forgot to put it there. Probably not so often nowadays they have to do the modification.
RedBerens
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Was this the one that needed the barrel turned and the forcing cone re-cut? How did they do on that? I'm sending my 681 in and it may need that too.
Denver Dick
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Well, I'll bet your firing pin bushing is now stainless steel and the firing pin rivet on the hammer is also stainless steel. My brother had his 586 no dash done and that's the way it came back. That clearly indicates it's been back for the modification, and you have the paperwork, of course.
Don't feel bad, last year I sent in a 4576 frame mounted decocker to S&W for inspection under the early '90s recall of all frame mounted decockers. If inspected, the pistol should have two punch marks under the decock lever. They did not punch mine, but the paperwork indicates they did the recall stuff. So, like you I keep the paperwork.
Don't feel bad, last year I sent in a 4576 frame mounted decocker to S&W for inspection under the early '90s recall of all frame mounted decockers. If inspected, the pistol should have two punch marks under the decock lever. They did not punch mine, but the paperwork indicates they did the recall stuff. So, like you I keep the paperwork.
RedBerens- Yes, the same gun. It looks great and the end shake is now .000. The b/c gap is about .004, perfect. Denver Dick- yes, the firing pin bushing is stainless and the rivet is stainless. The area around the barrel just in front of the cylinder has fresh metal showing which has obviously been worked on. So, I am thinking that I have a "like new" 586 (no dash) with some nice holster wear to use as my IDPA gun next spring and summer, once we emerge from a LONG Minnesota winter. I'll the gun out to our local indoor range and give 'er a whirl this afternoon. It shot just fine before I sent it back for the "M" so I'm thinking it will shoot even better now. -Jeepster
RedBerens
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Just wondering if you got a chance to shoot it yet. I'm curious to see if the barrel work changed the point of impact at all.
RedBerens- I put 250 rounds of the Berry's 158 grain bullets in front of 4.7 Grains of Win. 231 (my standard IDPA load)through that gun the other day. I forgot to mention that my original gun had a rear sight without the white outline, plus the sight was a bit damaged so I had Smith&Wesson replace the rear leaf. They had screwed the rear sight all the way down so I had to re-establish my zero. Bottom line: it shoots like a TACK DRIVER!!! No kidding. I am 100% pleased and like I said before, this will be my primary IDPA gun next summer. Now I should probably post a question about lead versus Berry's copper coated (FMJ, basically)bullets through these guns as far as wear is concerned. Maybe save for later...... Jeepster
You are using the same IDPA load that I do. The copper coating is significantly softer than the FMJ jackets. After almost a decade and over 40,000 rounds, my 686 bore still has sharp edges on the rifling and groups more than good enough for "zero down" at 35 yards.
The only visible wear is light chipping on the cylinder notches from rapid double action firing.
Shoot away and don't worry about the gun!
OKFCO5- I came to IDPA after shooting CMP High Power (service rifles)for several years and am used to having to replace barrels after 6 or 7 thousand rounds due to throat erosion having a negative impact on accuracy. I gather that the life of a revolver barrel, especially if you shoot .38 Specials out of a gun set up for .357 Mag, like a 586/686 is almost infinite? I guess on a revolver, the "barrel erosion" on the forcing cone, is functionally similar to throat erosion on a rifle barrel but takes much, much longer to happen. Any comments on the similarity between rifle throat erosion and revolver barrel erosion will be much appreciated by me. Maybe I should just start a new discussion thread on this issue. -Jeepster
HEADKNOCKER
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dek the M is stamped above the model # on the frame behind the yolk..See Pic..
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Gary/Hk
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carguychris
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Yes, as seen above.
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