586 or 19-4 which one?

[tascofeldman]

Have recently come across a 586, Nickle finish with what look to be the " coke bottle" grips. Finish is okay, no flaking that I can see, grips fair with need of some TLC. Barrel looks to be 6" or so. Overall the gun needs some love. The 19-4 is a blued finish with wood finger grips also with a 6" barrel. Finish is in decent condition with some wear but no pitting. The grips are not chipped up nor deeply scratched but also need a refinish to bring out the wood. Both can be had for the same price. Not in safe queen condition but not "truck gun" either. The winner Will be used in a light hearted attempt at wheelgun competition. I've no plans to scare Jerry M, just wanna have fun. The gun will also be a sidearm in the woods, might even get to bark at some game. Which one would y'all give a new home to and why.

 

[SAFireman]

I think that the 586 would hold up better to long range sessions....and it has the full under-lug to help keep the muzzle flip down.

Both are fine guns. Pick the one that YOU like best. They both can do the same things.

 

[sbeatty1983]

If you are going to be shooting magnums on a frequent basis then get the 586.

 

[Old cop]

The 586 is made to withstand a steady diet of mangums and will probably outlast the M19 w/very heavy use.

 

[JCS&W]

Since you stated you plan to shoot it often, and I assume with .357 rounds, I would go with the larger L frame, M586. While the M19 will handle the .357 rounds, the L frame, with its full underlug, does seem to me to handle the .357 round more comfortablly. Really can't go wrong with either one. Just buy the one that fits you.

 

[fyimo]

I'd get the Model 586 as I already have and they will shoot all the 357 magnum rounds that you want to shoot through it.

 

[squidsix]

If you don't have a 19 yet, you are missing the boat. The 586 is a very fine revolver, but 19s are much more special.

 

[tascofeldman]

Will mostly be 38's in comp but will enjoy the 357 rest of the time, like while hunting. The 19 seems to be in slightly better shape. Can be had for the neighborhood of 565$ in hand. Like it a little better. The 586 seems like it might shoot a little quicker because of the underlugs handling the recoil better. Have a line on a 19 4" as a mate to the 6". May adopt it any way as it looks like it really needs love!

 

[old bear]

Will mostly be 38's in comp but will enjoy the 357 rest of the time, like while hunting. The 19 seems to be in slightly better shape.

With the above information, I would opt for the M -19.

 

[squidsix]

Get the Combat Magnum, Get the Combat Magnum, Get the Combat Magnum, Get the Combat Magnum, Get the Combat Magnum, Get the Combat Magnum.

 

[Sportsterguy]

I'd still buy the 586. Its a great balanced revolver and handles .357's with ease. It's also very handsome IMO. You can go and shoot heavy magnums to your hearts content if you want without wearing it out like the 19 will over time. My most accurate centerfire is a 4" nickel 586. It will easily shoot 3/4-1" groups sandbagged all day at 25 yards. With the extra 2" barrel on yours it too has the potential to be a tackdriver. You have a genuine 100 yd deer gun with some 180 gr, Buffalo Bore .357's and a 75 yard gun using 158 gr. Speer Gold Dot .357's. I'd personally go with the 180 BB's for deer and the Gold Dots for SD.

Anyone who tells ya a .357 is too light for deer has either not shot one with the right round, used the wrong load or missed the vitals with a bad shot. It all comes down to nailing an accurate shot and hitting the vitals, hopefully breaking a shoulder on it's path. I try to kep my distance these days to 50 yards or less and the 586 will get the job done if you do your part.

I have the 586, 3" CS-1 and a few 19's and 66's. For what you'll be using it for the 586 wins hands down IMO!

 

[tascofeldman]

Would $550 otd be a fair price for a fair shape 6" nickle 586? Grips in decent shape, won't win a beauty contest but still catches the eye.

 

[Rapidray]

Shooting comp...

No second thought, the 586. L frames are heavy duty. If you shoot the .38 in it, it will feel like a 22. The weight will keep your barrel down, so on your next shot, you will be on target quicker. I use it in IDPA and love it. Going hunting, .357 mags.

 

[JxMxFxPx]

The OP mentioned "competition" and "6 inch barrel".
Remember....in IDPA you are limited to a 4 incher.

 

[tascofeldman]

Thanks for catching that for me!! USPSA says max of 8.5" barrel. IDPA says it must be "concelable", IPSC says max of 5". The local club is an IPSC/USPSA club. I guess the 6" in either one would nock me out. I guess I could adopt the 19-4 in 4". It was sent to the island of misfit guns and carry's some rust spots and the previous owners markings. For around $325 it might could overlook the blems and shoot it till it dies of happiness!

 

[Rapidray]

You right...

I use a 4 inch. Forgot he had a 6 inch. Now you have me wondering what type of comp he has in mind. PPC? Bullseye?

OP has just posted while I was typing - now we know!