586 Question

[Person]

I was looking at a 6" 586 no dash in a pawn shop today and the price seemed resonable at $524.99 although I am sure I can talk them down a little. It had the original grips and lockup seemed pretty tight on it. Also, it does not have the M stamp so if I bought it it would have to go back to S&W. They still do this recall for free right?

The blueing was a little worn but not too bad. I do not own any blued S&W's. I don't believe it has been reblued but are there any tell tale signs I can look for to see if it has been?

Thanks,

Eric

 

[murphydog]

Yes, the factory will do the modification at no charge, call customer service. Signs of a refinished gun include rounded metal edges, pitting or waviness under the blue, blurry stampings...usually pretty easy to tell. $500 or so sounds to be about right.

 

[Crusader105]

I'm waiting on a 586 no dash to be delivered this week, the transfer took a few weeks to complete.

If I'm not mistaken it's only the dashed models which need a modifications.

 

[minconrevo]

My 686 no dash has the "M" mark. A 686-1 I used to own had no "M" and had not been back to S&W for the mod; they took care of it, including shipping up and back.

Not all guns did get the mark, so the modifications may have been done anyway. Call S&W customer service, with the serial number in hand, to ask, if you acquire the particular gun.

 

[TSQUARED]

I have a 586 no dash which I shoot in the pistol games with 38 Special loads and have not experienced any problems. The gun does not have the M stamp and has not been back to S&W.

 

[Person]

Thanks for the info guys. I am going to think about it and maybe I will see if they still have it on Monday. If it was a 4" or shorter I would of bought it on the spot but I am not a huge fan of 6" guns. I own a 6" 617 and it shoots lights out but it just doesn't balance like the 4" 66 I have.

I am still tempted to grab it though......

Thanks,

Person

 

[TSQUARED]

Thanks for the info guys. I am going to think about it and maybe I will see if they still have it on Monday. If it was a 4" or shorter I would of bought it on the spot but I am not a huge fan of 6" guns. I own a 6" 617 and it shoots lights out but it just doesn't balance like the 4" 66 I have.

I am still tempted to grab it though......

Thanks,

Person

I agree that the full lugged 4 inch revolvers balance better. In the older pre-lug versions I enjoy shooting the 6 inch versions but with the lugged barreled models I opt for the 4 inch versions.

 

[Nightowl]

If I recall correctly, the -2s and later all had the modification during the manufacturing process and will not have the M stamp. The reason for the recall was that hot 125 gr bulleted ammunition would flow the primer back into the firing pin bushing, tying up the cylinder from revolving. Heavier bulleted ammunition did not create this condition. If you only shoot 158 grain ammunition, this should not be a problem.

 

[Snapping Twig]

Not to toss a wrench in the works, IIRC, it was the -1 that got the modification and was the reason for the -1 change.

I can't say for the 686, but I owned a 586 no dash I bought new in 84 and sent back for the modification soon after the problem was announced. Mine locked up with my hot home loads prior to the modification, but was flawless after.

I currently have a 586-1 w/o the modification and it eats everything I feed it.

 

[Butchbird]

All this talk had me rushing to the safe to check the 586 no dash I picked up in a trade about three months ago -- I had forgotten about the recall -- it does have the "M" stamp -- I gotta remember this stuff -- getting old is tough

 

[Marshall 357]

I am a fan of 4'' or shorter barrels,but my 586-0 is a 6'' and I love it.I would get the 586 in a heart beat. Mine has not been stamped with a "M". But it shoots 125gr just fine and everything else for that matter.

 

[Person]

Ok......so I went back and looked at the 586 at lunch today. I don't know what I was thinking the other day but this thing is pretty much new. It has been shot but very little. I looked it over and blueing is almost 100% on it, lockup was good, no messed up screw heads, and the stocks are in really good condition with just a few very small marks. I always hear people say there is a faint turn line on the cylinder and I am not sure how to judge that exactly but this one to me appears to have a faint line.

So they wanted $524.99 and I got them down to $475 out the door and they threw in a cheap soft case to put it in. I wanted to get it for $450 but oh well you don't always get what you want. No box or papers but I am still content with the deal.

I am going to call S&W and give them my serial to see if it has had the recall done and just was not marked but I will probably wind up having to send it in for that.

I will post some pictures tonight.

Later,

Person

 

[Engine49guy]

There is alot of info on the "M" hammer nose mod.

My recollection is that primer flow back was not really an issue anymore and was only a concern with a certain brand soft primer and only in combat guns being carried for personal defense.
Then again S&W might give the gun a nice tuneup while there.
As for me I have one that has the mod (Performed before I bought it) and one that does not.
Unless I develop an issue the unmodded gun is not going back.

 

[Person]

Here are a couple of quick pictures. I am pretty happy with my purchase after getting home and looking it over again. This thing has not been fired much at all. I am pretty new to judging blueing but I would put this at 98%. I really cannot find any marks or wear on the bluing except for one very small area near the muzzle and one little spot on the cylinder. The stocks are almost perfect as well.

Later,

Person

 

[NCTexan]

You ought to be happy... a very fine looker!

 

[3rd Gen Neal]

I just traded for a revolver just like that, you got a great deal...you wanted it for 450?!!! Man, be happy with what you got...586's aren't anywhere near as available as 686's these days.

 

[Person]

Funny thing was they had a 686 no dash with replacement rubber grips sitting next to the 586. The 686 had a lot more miles on it than the 586 but they were asking $600 for it. I know stainelss revolvers are a little more popular overall but a worse condition firearm without the original grips for $75 more. I guess they know what sells in their store and what people are looking for but it seemed a bit odd.

Later,

Person

 

[nightshade2x]

Took some pictures of my 1987 586 with the new Hogue Fingergoove exotic wood grips with butt stripe after a few coats of Renaissance Wax.

Any other long 586's out there?

Have fun and be safe.
Nightshade2x

 

[Snapping Twig]

Here's mine with Hogue rosewoods.

 

[Parker Phoenix]

Where is the M stamp located? I have what looks to be N's stacked on top of each other on the loading end of my cylinder, Is there any thing to that? I have a 6" nickle I am thinking of selling, as I don't really need or use the gun.

 

[Captain38]

Nightshade2x,

That's a great looking Model 586 with its 8-3/8 inch barrel.

I only have one Smith with that length barrel and it's a Model 57, of which you could say, "it really shoots like a rifle"!

 

[Person]

Where is the M stamp located? I have what looks to be N's stacked on top of each other on the loading end of my cylinder, Is there any thing to that? I have a 6" nickle I am thinking of selling, as I don't really need or use the gun.

Engine49Guy has a post with a picture of the M stamp on page 2 of this thread.

Later,

Person

 

[Parker Phoenix]

Engine49Guy has a post with a picture of the M stamp on page 2 of this thread.

Later,

Person

I saw it after I posted. I humbly apologize.

 

[j38]

Person,

If that 586 shoots as good as it looks - you're in for some good times. Congratulations and DO give us a range report when you get the chance.

Jerry