A friend is looking at one and would like opinions on what it may be worth.
It is used, but very good condition. Thanks.
It is used, but very good condition. Thanks.
5906 PPC Performance Center
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The range is wide. At the bottom end you'd be looking at used and has holster wear... this is not typical for most PC guns however it is actually common for PPC-9 pistols as they were meant for and used for competition so plenty of them have holster wear and obvious signs of solid use. So a gun at this end and without the fancy aluminum PC case would likely bottom out at maybe $1,850. We've seen WORSE condition PPC-9's go over $2,000.
At the extreme other end would be a box-fresh unfired PPC-9, 6-inch Long Slide, with original PC case and all papers too. Even better if you had the white cardboard outer carton — though I'll say that I'm not 100% certain the PPC-9 ever had the outer carton.
This carton is just a simple cardboard box and shouldn't be so darn special EXCEPT that these outer cartons have the original S&W box end label attached to them with the pistol's serial number, SKU, born-on date, etc.
Top end for a NIB 6-inch Long Slide PPC-9 has recently seen sales over $8,000. But please understand that those are frenetic auction results where two bidders had decided the previous market high needed to be wiped out and eclipsed by three grand, and the seller was a well-known and established, respected professional consignment dealer with a high feedback rating and a known positive reputation.
Anyone reading this shouldn't realistically expect that they could get $8,000 on a whim by selling one.
If you are shopping and the pistol is a 5-inch with some evidence of use and no aluminum PC case, you'd be fortunate to bring it home anywhere under $2,500 shipped. Add the case, original papers and high-grade and push that number toward $3,000.
These are scarce guns that don't appear every day and the market does go up & down. If anyone cares to share what they paid AND the situation in which they bought it, that would be a great additive to this conversation.
At the extreme other end would be a box-fresh unfired PPC-9, 6-inch Long Slide, with original PC case and all papers too. Even better if you had the white cardboard outer carton — though I'll say that I'm not 100% certain the PPC-9 ever had the outer carton.
This carton is just a simple cardboard box and shouldn't be so darn special EXCEPT that these outer cartons have the original S&W box end label attached to them with the pistol's serial number, SKU, born-on date, etc.
Top end for a NIB 6-inch Long Slide PPC-9 has recently seen sales over $8,000. But please understand that those are frenetic auction results where two bidders had decided the previous market high needed to be wiped out and eclipsed by three grand, and the seller was a well-known and established, respected professional consignment dealer with a high feedback rating and a known positive reputation.
Anyone reading this shouldn't realistically expect that they could get $8,000 on a whim by selling one.
If you are shopping and the pistol is a 5-inch with some evidence of use and no aluminum PC case, you'd be fortunate to bring it home anywhere under $2,500 shipped. Add the case, original papers and high-grade and push that number toward $3,000.
These are scarce guns that don't appear every day and the market does go up & down. If anyone cares to share what they paid AND the situation in which they bought it, that would be a great additive to this conversation.
the big guy
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Bought a sweet example for 5000.00, 5", complete with aluminum case & everything. Extra mags, although 10 round.
OP
Thank you for the replies. I passed on the info. to my friend.
Here are 2 recent sales on GB. Completed auctions are ok to post.
I am not sure I understand the difference that warrants more than doubling the price fron $2275 to $5600 except maybe the bidding war syndrome. In fact the lower cost pistol with 6 PPC magazines. More expensive looks to be in better overall condition but it is not an unfired example.
There are a few more sold 5906 PPCs on the big auction for all with cases in theh $3K to $5k Range.
This is basically objective data to what Sevens has already posted.
Smith and Wesson 5906 PPC Performance Center - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 841664975
PPC 9 performance center rare 3rd gen S&W 5906 pc - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 839750543
I am not sure I understand the difference that warrants more than doubling the price fron $2275 to $5600 except maybe the bidding war syndrome. In fact the lower cost pistol with 6 PPC magazines. More expensive looks to be in better overall condition but it is not an unfired example.
There are a few more sold 5906 PPCs on the big auction for all with cases in theh $3K to $5k Range.
This is basically objective data to what Sevens has already posted.
Smith and Wesson 5906 PPC Performance Center - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 841664975
PPC 9 performance center rare 3rd gen S&W 5906 pc - Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com : 839750543
There is a lot to compare and contrast with those two auctions. First is that the more expensive one is a demonstrably more scarce variant, it has the shorter dust cover and square muzzle. Next is that the seller is far more established and with a feedback rating that is six times the other seller. He also takes pictures that are miles better and regardless of either gun's actual condition, this one looks far better due to much better pictures. His pistol has some very rare wood stocks on it and the aluminum case is in much better shape.
If these were two guns offered by the same seller, the gap in price would be much more close I'll bet. And then there is the Gunbroker wildcard... some things are tough to put a finger on. Don't discount the fact that a buyer interested in a PPC-9 agreed to a $5,600 buy, leaving one (massive) bidding voice perhaps out of the running for the one that sold at $2,275.
In my experience, the $2,275 pistol was a damn good buy in this market. If the seller had sent that to a fine consignment seller such as sarah15, it would have went for many hundreds more I'll bet.
I bought mine maybe 3 years ago and it didn't come with all the goodies such as the aluminum case and papers and I paid more for mine.
If these were two guns offered by the same seller, the gap in price would be much more close I'll bet. And then there is the Gunbroker wildcard... some things are tough to put a finger on. Don't discount the fact that a buyer interested in a PPC-9 agreed to a $5,600 buy, leaving one (massive) bidding voice perhaps out of the running for the one that sold at $2,275.
In my experience, the $2,275 pistol was a damn good buy in this market. If the seller had sent that to a fine consignment seller such as sarah15, it would have went for many hundreds more I'll bet.
I bought mine maybe 3 years ago and it didn't come with all the goodies such as the aluminum case and papers and I paid more for mine.
I would have to see numbers but the 5" version of the PPC with the scalloped or bullnose type slide was the first version to come out and was gobbled up by PPC shooters , within 2 years it was the gun that dominated ( in numbers) the line at most matches. The 6" version ( with the same bullnose ( for lack of a better term) came next from S/W but only to the very top shooters, or those that had good connections. This is by far the rarest version, of the PPC model. Im not sure it even was offered for sale, Ive never tried to hunt one down , I think most of the guys who had them, sold them off. The second version of the 5" gun I would think is next rarest , because guys who had a 5" already didn't need one and the 6" came out at the same time. Again just my thoughts as what I saw on the range at PPC matches.
Then the 6" version came out with the full squared off slide. I always thought the term dustcover referred to the front portion of the frame, but I hear it used both ways frame and slide. I thing the frames are all pretty much the same.
Well not that many PPC competitors jumped on the 6" gun because it was only 1" longer, and you couldn't shoot the Distinguished match with it. About this time the longslide 1911s were starting to appear from some of the custom makers like Tanaka, Clark, Springfield etc. Many competitors didn't like shooting autos anyway, or only did it for distinguished matches and the Nationals so couldn't justify another auto purchase.
Then the NRA changed the rules for the Distinguished match making 6"guns legal and guys that previously hadn't wanted one scrambled to get a 6" S/W but by then the P/C was slowing down with PPC and had a lot of other stuff coming.
If I have the story right, and I spent quite a bit of time(socially) with the guys from S/W, Jim Rae and Tom Kelly. These PPC autos were actually made for European distributors. Like Lou Horton/RSR etc, in the US. The distributor allowed S/W to sell the models (Target Champion) with Aristocrat sights to LE only , because S/W saw a market with the beginning of S/A matches in NRA Police Combat, at least that's the story I remember and the distributors wouldn't allow sale in the civilian market. Also some legal worries about the removal of safeties on these models.
The first picture shows most frame slide variations. Second photo has the first version with the scalloped nose/slide.
Also a 4" and 5" service auto version of the 5906.
Then the 6" version came out with the full squared off slide. I always thought the term dustcover referred to the front portion of the frame, but I hear it used both ways frame and slide. I thing the frames are all pretty much the same.
Well not that many PPC competitors jumped on the 6" gun because it was only 1" longer, and you couldn't shoot the Distinguished match with it. About this time the longslide 1911s were starting to appear from some of the custom makers like Tanaka, Clark, Springfield etc. Many competitors didn't like shooting autos anyway, or only did it for distinguished matches and the Nationals so couldn't justify another auto purchase.
Then the NRA changed the rules for the Distinguished match making 6"guns legal and guys that previously hadn't wanted one scrambled to get a 6" S/W but by then the P/C was slowing down with PPC and had a lot of other stuff coming.
If I have the story right, and I spent quite a bit of time(socially) with the guys from S/W, Jim Rae and Tom Kelly. These PPC autos were actually made for European distributors. Like Lou Horton/RSR etc, in the US. The distributor allowed S/W to sell the models (Target Champion) with Aristocrat sights to LE only , because S/W saw a market with the beginning of S/A matches in NRA Police Combat, at least that's the story I remember and the distributors wouldn't allow sale in the civilian market. Also some legal worries about the removal of safeties on these models.
The first picture shows most frame slide variations. Second photo has the first version with the scalloped nose/slide.
Also a 4" and 5" service auto version of the 5906.
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Thanks for all that good information. Does anyone have a picture of a scalloped nose 6 inch? I have never heard of one. Also to be clear is Sevens saying the scalloped nose is rarer and CALREB says the opposite? Not really even sure how to fact check that as the lists I have seen do not differentiate.
Thanks for all that good information. Does anyone have a picture of a scalloped nose 6 inch? I have never heard of one. Also to be clear is Sevens saying the scalloped nose is rarer and CALREB says the opposite? Not really even sure how to fact check that as the lists I have seen do not differentiate.
I think that each gun would tell it's own tale and if you were lucky enough to have two examples of each (four total) you might find that they slot themselves.
I don't think one model is inherently more accurate than the other, the top-end of each model is effectively the same.
The prices are similar but while the 952 was a regularly cataloged item, the PPC-9 was a limited gun that was special order for LE only.
RedCardinal
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I am familiar with that one. Nice gun. What is your comment regarding it?
An incredibly high price for a 5 inch. That fellow had it posted for sale on armslust for less than half its sale price on GB.
