5906 question
- Thread starter lowflow
- Start date
That is not OEM! Seems to suggest that the hole got damaged somehow, so as a repair, was bored-out and a new “sleeve” was added. It looks like an ingenious repair for an otherwise difficult problem. That is a (somewhat) likely location for a frame crack or failure but I’d say that would be far more likely on an alloy frame pistol than a stainless frame double-stack like a 5906. Definitely makes you ask what on Earth happened.
Given the volume of 5906 pistols that were made, I would probably pass on purchasing that if it were offered, but if you already own it and it works, keep on shootin’!
Given the volume of 5906 pistols that were made, I would probably pass on purchasing that if it were offered, but if you already own it and it works, keep on shootin’!
I doubt that. S&W would almost certainly just scrap the frame, IMO.
I'd bet the farm that's not factory. I doubt they'd fix a cracked frame. But it looks functional.
I agree that it's a well done repair. If the slide to frame fit is tight, it wouldn't bother me on a gun I own and know shoots well. If I saw it in a pawn shop, I'd probably pass, ......unless it was $250 bucks or so.
I still say the gunsmith is talented.
I still say the gunsmith is talented.
BMCM
US Veteran
Interesting to say the least...
Certainly not a factory repair in my opinion. Further, as evidenced by the color and slight, what appears to be surface rust, that insert appears to be carbon steel, unlike the 410 stainless steel alloy that frame is crafted of.
I'd be very much interested to see some more views of the interior on both sides of the modification as well as an exterior shot of the right side.
I sure would like to know what happened to that frame to prompt such a modification.
Cheers
Bill
Certainly not a factory repair in my opinion. Further, as evidenced by the color and slight, what appears to be surface rust, that insert appears to be carbon steel, unlike the 410 stainless steel alloy that frame is crafted of.
I'd be very much interested to see some more views of the interior on both sides of the modification as well as an exterior shot of the right side.
I sure would like to know what happened to that frame to prompt such a modification.
Cheers
Bill
Last edited:
I agree, S&W would not modify a frame and risk the liability. It does look well done. Can you post a pic with it reassembled?
Great guns. No doubt even with the repair it will serve you well for a long time.
Great guns. No doubt even with the repair it will serve you well for a long time.
Regards 18DAIstansdds
Member
As what others have said, that is not a factory repair or feature. That is an ingenious method of repairing a receiver with cracks in the slide top pin hole area or a wallowed out pin hole. Either condition is usually the result of a lot of rounds fired and/or failure to use the proper recoil spring and replacing it when it is worn.
hmmm...
if this frame had cracked, there would definately be marks of the crack/repair on the rail above the hole, which i can not see in this picture. when i got my tormented and beaten to death 5904 tcfxxxx, after i cleaned it up and replaced the springs and broken wraparound grip, i went on and fired it. the pistol fuctioned fine, but! the slide would not lock open, plus the slide release would hang to the side of the orange plastic magazine follower, not allowing the magazine to free drop when released. i had to pull the magazines ou. (new and old magazines) at first glance, i figured, easy fix just replace the slide release lever. upon inspecting and comparing the said lever to my other 59xx such levers, ther was nothing wrong with it, (????) interchanging the levers, the problem remained. further inspection then revealed the real issue. the lever had a very small play in the area where yours is repaired, as that hole was a bit bigger than it should (like half a milimeter, not more, but enough to raise this issue). and here is the weird part. i inittialy thought this hole was woalloed out due to excesive wear, and or the aluminum frame being weaker than steel and so on, but no! the hole was/is perfectly round. just a bit bigger. my test repair to my this finding, was i scizzored a strip of tin from a tin can, and placed it just in the fashion yours is done. no glue, no permenant stake no nothing. the slide keeps it from rolling, the lever from walking out. guess what. 5 years and about 3k rounds later, the gun has functioned flawlesly. so in the end as we say in Greece, nothing more permenant than the temporary. lol. my take on this frame you have, is that they had the same problem like i did, but they also had access to more elaborate machine tools than my scizzors and tin can. my advise to you, shoot the gun and enjoy it. these pistols are so strong, they will outlive us all.
if this frame had cracked, there would definately be marks of the crack/repair on the rail above the hole, which i can not see in this picture. when i got my tormented and beaten to death 5904 tcfxxxx, after i cleaned it up and replaced the springs and broken wraparound grip, i went on and fired it. the pistol fuctioned fine, but! the slide would not lock open, plus the slide release would hang to the side of the orange plastic magazine follower, not allowing the magazine to free drop when released. i had to pull the magazines ou. (new and old magazines) at first glance, i figured, easy fix just replace the slide release lever. upon inspecting and comparing the said lever to my other 59xx such levers, ther was nothing wrong with it, (????) interchanging the levers, the problem remained. further inspection then revealed the real issue. the lever had a very small play in the area where yours is repaired, as that hole was a bit bigger than it should (like half a milimeter, not more, but enough to raise this issue). and here is the weird part. i inittialy thought this hole was woalloed out due to excesive wear, and or the aluminum frame being weaker than steel and so on, but no! the hole was/is perfectly round. just a bit bigger. my test repair to my this finding, was i scizzored a strip of tin from a tin can, and placed it just in the fashion yours is done. no glue, no permenant stake no nothing. the slide keeps it from rolling, the lever from walking out. guess what. 5 years and about 3k rounds later, the gun has functioned flawlesly. so in the end as we say in Greece, nothing more permenant than the temporary. lol. my take on this frame you have, is that they had the same problem like i did, but they also had access to more elaborate machine tools than my scizzors and tin can. my advise to you, shoot the gun and enjoy it. these pistols are so strong, they will outlive us all.
03Fatboy
Member
Was the frame milled to enlarge the opening just right of the added sleeve?
If I were a betting man, I'd suspect a non-factory machinist tried his hand at a repair of some sort.
Perhaps the previous owner didn't know how to remove the slide stop and damaged the frame? Any damage to the right side of the frame, like from beating on the end (and frame) of the stop assembly's pin? Maybe the damage was limited to the trying to PRY the stop assembly out of the left side of the frame?
Interesting, to say the least. Might be an embarrassed former owner somewhere, and a machinist who was willing to take his money.
Perhaps the previous owner didn't know how to remove the slide stop and damaged the frame? Any damage to the right side of the frame, like from beating on the end (and frame) of the stop assembly's pin? Maybe the damage was limited to the trying to PRY the stop assembly out of the left side of the frame?
Interesting, to say the least. Might be an embarrassed former owner somewhere, and a machinist who was willing to take his money.
