651 2 inch

[rubicon20032003]

Saw one at local gunshop.its a 651-1 with two cylinders.Its in great shape other then rear sight is rusty.Whats it worth and is it rare

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Very rare... if it looks at all decent I'd jump on it.

Roger aka Mr. Wonderful

 

[ralph7]

What do they want for it?

 

[rubicon20032003]

They want $900 with tax .Wonder were I could get a new rear sight for it

 

[ralph7]

Jump on it!
Gunbroker is showing $1500 and up, think that may be a Lew Horton model.
A rear stainless sight can be found if you can't make that one presentable.

Act un interested and offer $750 out the door.

 

[rubicon20032003]

Did they come with both cylinders.And how I tell if a lew Horton.I tryed they won't go any lower on price.

 

[ralph7]

Google says the serial # was added under the top strap on the Lew Horton guns.
I am just going by Gunbroker auctions that have sold. I would buy it for what they are asking, but hang out here and see what others say.
Yes, some came with 2 cylinders, from what I see.

 

[rubicon20032003]

Thanks for help .Guess I make the hour drive back tomarrow am then.They were closing when we left.And see what anyone else says tonite on it on here

 

[g8rb8]

First off the 651 has adjustable sights and the 650 does not and I clarify this because there seems to be a significant difference in how buyers value these with the 651 bringing more dollars.

The SCSW says "Also offered with an auxiliary .22 Long Rifle cylinder in early production." It does not clarify if it's the no dash or the dash-1 but in context it appears to be referring to the no dash 651.

Here's what SCSW shows:

103900 2" S RB with Boot Grip RSR Special, 1999, 1241 reported manufactured.

103900 Same code as above; also reported for 1998 Lew Horton Production.

A quick review of Gun Broker for successful auctions that actually resulted in a sale for S&W Model 651 show the following ( I did not report all sales):

651-1, 2", looks original, with box, does NOT have extra cylinder, product code 103900, rubber grips, blue plastic S&W box, LNIB, $1525.

651-1, 2", looks original, with box, does NOT have extra cylinder, product code 103900, rubber grips, blue plastic S&W box, LNIB, $1625.

651-1, 2", looks original, withOUT box, does NOT have extra cylinder, product code 103900, rubber grips, blue plastic S&W box, excellent, $1119.09

651-1, 4", looks original, with box, does NOT have extra cylinder, rubber stocks/grips, excellent, $860

651-1, 2", looks original, box in picture may not be original (1 piece cardboard), rubber stocks/grips, excellent, does NOT have extra cylinder, 906.98

651 no dash, 4", original, with box, both cylinders, excellent to LNIB, wood stocks/grips, One piece cardboard S&W box $2195.

651 no dash, 4", original, NO BOX, excellent condition, wood stocks/grips, $825.

651 no dash, 4", original, NO BOX, excellent condition, wood stocks/grips, 960.01.

My opinion, without pictures or more details, is $900 out the door with the extra cylinder is fair, if in excellent condition, and if it has the original box it's more than a fair price. I bet the rear sight cleans up well (?) - pictures would help with a better guess.

 

[rubicon20032003]

Does have extra cylinder make it worth more.Not sure about box didn't ask about that.I thought it would be worth more then auction prices

 

[g8rb8]

Does have extra cylinder make it worth more.Not sure about box didn't ask about that.I thought it would be worth more then auction prices

This is just one guys opinion.
In general I would say an extra .22 LR cylinder for any .22 MRF revolver will enhance the value by at least the value of the cylinder which, for sake of speculation, might be worth an extra $100. A new S&W .22 cylinder, last I looked might run about $100. On the other hand certain .22 cylinders seem to have more demand than supply. I've seen the .22 cylinder for a model 53 bring $500 - $750 (yikes).

So in this case, even if the 651-1 you're looking at did not originally come with an extra cylinder the extra cylinder would logically add about $100 value for many shooters and collectors. On the other hand if this extra cylinder was a special order that originally shipped with the 651-1 you're looking at it could conceivably add even more value to a collector as I would guess the extra cylinder is unusual. The ways you can figure out if the .22 LR cylinder shipped originally with the gun would be to first look for a serial # on the cylinder, most likely on the back of the cylinder (doubt) or under the ejector star (doubt); or contact Lew Horton (website) and send an e-mail to Lew Horton (or call) with the serial number. They will either say they did or did not distribute the revolver and if they did they probably can tell you if they shipped it with an extra cylinder. If Lew Horton did not distribute it then you'd have to send off for "a letter" (I think price just went up to $75) to figure out if the cylinder is original to the 651-1 you're looking at.

The lowest price for a successful auction on Gun Broker for a 2" model was $860 so the $900 out the door at your LGS (local gun store) does not seem out of line, especially with the extra cylinder. You might ask the LGS if they've checked out the .22 LR cylinder to be sure it actually functions well when installed.

 

[rubicon20032003]

I was just wondering with Horton or rsr sold them with both cylinders or not

 

[jcelect]

2" gun

The OP stated 2" 651! The extra cyls from the factory were on the early 4" guns! All the 2" guns were special orders for RSR and Lew Horton. An extra cyl on this 2" gun was an add on after the original shipment either by the factory or gunsmith fitting the extra cyl. The 651s are bringing high prices($1000) these days and the 2" are even higher!
jcelect

 

[rubicon20032003]

I think I'm going to pass on it.If it's only worth like five or six hundred more then I payed .Thats not worth it to me

 

[lunger]

I think I'm going to pass on it.If it's only worth like five or six hundred more then I payed .Thats not worth it to me

Everyone makes their own decision. But something that is worth five or six hundred more than I paid would be hard to pass on.