686 forcing cone

[Bald1]

Just looked at a 2.5” 686 no dash. I noticed the forcing cone had what I’d describe as a flat area or “dent” on outside edge of left side. I can’t figure out what might have caused this??????? No sharp edges just flattened. I’ve never seen this before. Any thoughts????????

 

[Alk8944]

If there is excessive cylinder end-shake that exceeds the normal barrel/cylinder gap, then the cylinder can strike the breech end of the barrel on closing the cylinder. This causes a worn spot on the left rear side of the barrel shank. Degree of damage depends on how much excessive end-shake and how long and how many opening-closing cycles the problem has existed for. Excessive yoke end-shake can do it to. Either way the cylinder is moving too far forward when open.

 

[Bald1]

That’s sounds right. Cylinder seemed tight. But gun was at Cabelas and naturally they had trigger lock to prevent a thorough inspection. I guessed it had something to do with cylinder contact but cylinder showed no signs of contact. I’d just never seen it before. I figured someone here had. Otherwise it wasn’t bad cosmetically for $729

 

[kaaskop49]

Sorry to hear this. I don't like going into LGS's, pointing out a flaw, sometimes serious, and being told there's nothing wrong with the gun. Don't know what happens from that point on because I just leave.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[daveyc]

it must take a lot of slop in either the cylinder or yoke for that to happen.

 

[Bald1]

Yeah I couldn’t make the cylinder hit cone but it is really the only explanation. Maybe someone was doing the load cylinder and flip wrist to close it trick. The finish was decent and it had square butt Pachs on it. Grips had smooth wear spots on them. When I firsts saw $729 for a 2 1/2” 686 I got excited. I was only there to buy some wool socks. The excitement quickly faded.

 

[Well Armed]

Yeah I couldn’t make the cylinder hit cone but it is really the only explanation. Maybe someone was doing the load cylinder and flip wrist to close it trick. The finish was decent and it had square butt Pachs on it. Grips had smooth wear spots on them. When I firsts saw $729 for a 2 1/2” 686 I got excited. I was only there to buy some wool socks. The excitement quickly faded.

$729 is a great price. I would have zero regrets. If there is ab issue, send it back to Smith to be fixed. The time you spent shipping it is worth the $100 you saved.

 

[chief38]

$729 is a great price. I would have zero regrets. If there is ab issue, send it back to Smith to be fixed. The time you spent shipping it is worth the $100 you saved.

The no dash guns were made before the lifetime warranty came out and so S&W will not fix it under warranty. My suggestion would be to talk to Cabela’s and see if they will either take it back and refund your money or pay for the repairs since the gun was not able to be properly inspected. The $729 price plus the repair job will turn out to NOT be any bargain and parts might be difficult to get.

While I know you like the gun you should be able to find one without issues and hassles for a bit more. Sorry for your woes but $729 plus the repair work just isn’t worth it and you’d be much better off (imho) starting with a clean slate. I hate to be the barer of bad news but that’s my honest opinion. If Cabela’s won’t do the right thing then you have no choice other than to pony up and get it repaired-but you can try. I wish you luck and let us know the resolve.

 

[Bald1]

The no dash guns were made before the lifetime warranty came out and so S&W will not fix it under warranty. My suggestion would be to talk to Cabela’s and see if they will either take it back and refund your money or pay for the repairs since the gun was not able to be properly inspected. The $729 price plus the repair job will turn out to NOT be any bargain and parts might be difficult to get.

While I know you like the gun you should be able to find one without issues and hassles for a bit more. Sorry for your woes but $729 plus the repair work just isn’t worth it and you’d be much better off (imho) starting with a clean slate. I hate to be the barer of bad news but that’s my honest opinion. If Cabela’s won’t do the right thing then you have no choice other than to pony up and get it repaired-but you can try. I wish you luck and let us know the resolve.

Chief, I did not buy the gun. I didn’t walk away I ran. I just wondered if anyone had actually seen this before because I have not.

 

[stansdds]

Certainly sounds like user induced damage. I would not buy something like that unless I could give it a good inspection and check for proper functioning. When one sign of damage is easily spotted, it makes me wonder what else is wrong.

 

[steelslaver]

Not to be a word nazi, or the nomenclature police, but your actual speaking of the barrel extension. The forcing cone is the taper machined into the beginning of the bore. The barrel extension is the portion of barrel extending into the frame window. I only bring it up because my first mental image was a ding or mar on the outer edge of the actual forcing cone.

The issue that cause the ding should be easily fixed. Most likely a defective yoke screw. I personally don't like version as it is easily damaged and will then allow the yoke too move forward and then when the cylinder is closed the yoke and or cylinder can contact the frame and barrel.

 

[TAROMAN]

Another possibility is that it was manufactured that way.
This is an image of a new, unfired S&W 21-4:

 

[Bald1]

Taroman, that is interesting. Kinda looked like that.