Have the 686+ Mountain Gun, great holster gun. Thought of carrying it on duty just for the extremely remote possibility that I might meet a BG who counts shots, then disregarded the concept. But it still is a great duty/woods gun, bought several speedloaders for it figuring they might not be available forever, the also fit my "Mountain Light", which will definitely get your attention with heavy magnum loads, but carries like it is not there. Unfortunately they only came with the lock, but I gritted my teeth cause the price was right-possibly from another lock hater.