6906 Question

War_Eagle

Member
Joined
Mar 16, 2012
Messages
77
Reaction score
25
Location
Good Hope, GA.
I have a pair of 6906's, my original, that I have had for several years functions great in double/single action. ( Hammer stays back after each shot )The second gun I recently picked up, seems to be double action only? I load up the magazine, rack the slide and the hammer stays down, fire a round and the hammer stays down, etc.... Any ideas of what could be causing this? Wouldn't both have the same type of action? Thanks
 
Register to hide this ad
Not if its a 6946. Or was altered or made DAO by a former owner or dept. mandate.
The 6946 will have a short heavy pull for each shot, an altered or modified 6906 will be a full length DAO of similar weight.
Might want to have a smith who's versed with 3rd Gens give it a look over.
Dale
 
Sounds like the single action sear (or it's companion notches in the hammer) is damaged, broken, or missing.
Pull the grips off and take a look.
Hope this helps.
John
 
Just to cover the bases, does the new-to-you/used "6906" list the model as 6906 on the left side of the frame? Or is it a 6946?

Is there a left side manual safety lever? (Granted, the answer to this question may not be definitive if someone had an older 6906 converted to DAO with the new-style DAO parts, and decided to keep the manual safety.)

A 6946 (old-style DAO), or a 6906 converted to DAO with new style parts (so they fit & function in the TDA frame & slide), would naturally have the hammer go forward to the "located" position as the gun fires with each trigger press and the slide cycles (once the hammer is initially "located" by retracting the slide to "charge" the pistol). BTW, the new style DAO MIM parts (hammer, sear & trigger) CANNOT be mixed with the old-style DAO non-MIM parts. Not at all.

A S&W TDA pistol (traditional double action, or DA/SA), as you're familiar with in your original 6906, it seems, ought to have the hammer remain in the single action cocked condition after the slide is cycled (after an initial DA shot).

If the hammer follows the slide in a TDA model, it's typically due to one or more of these conditions:
Damaged Sear Spring
Damaged Sear
Damaged single action cocking notch on hammer

Odd things can happen, though. I had a fairly new (3 yrs old?) 4566TSW brought to me for complaints of the hammer not holding in single action during a qual course-of-fire. When I inspected the gun I found it was really gummed up inside the frame, all around the hammer, sear & drawbar. It was obviously caused by an excessive (and repeatedly applied) amount of solvent/lubricant, probably occurring during some repeated cleanings. The sear wasn't able to consistently & freely move back and catch the hammer's single action cocking notches, and the hammer started falling and following the slide. Not good, as the hammer following the slide can result in doubling & "bursts". This was probably caught just in time, all the way around.

Once cleaned up, so I could see the parts clearly :mad: , they all appeared to be in normal condition and the gun passed all bench checks for normal functioning. Returning the cleaned and normally lubed gun to the firing line, having it fired by both the issued user and the instructor who had observed the original problem, the gun now demonstrated normal function. (I discussed & stressed the importance of proper cleaning & lubrication practices, BTW.)

Also, a S&W TDA gun may decock upon firing (even with the manual safety in the off-safe/ready-to-fire position) if the wrong spring is installed in the decocker body. The decocking lever assembly can rotate when the slide hits the rear of its travel, during live-fire, unless the proper spring is used underneath the decocker body plunger.

Naturally, no way to know what's happening with your used "6906" without being there to examine it, but those are just some thoughts off the top of my head.

You really need to determine if this is a DAO gun (and acting normally), or whether it requires the attention & services of a gunsmith familiar with S&W TDA guns.
 
Last edited:
Great information everyone, thank you. The gun is marked 6906 with the beginning of the serial number starting with the letters TFRxxxx. I have a good starting point with all the information provided and I will have a GS take a look at it. As always you guys are great.......Thanks
 
Well I contacted S&W support and explained the situation and they're response to me was "It was likely converted to double action only at some point and I should, locate and buy a spurred hammer" and it will convert it back to normal? They no longer carry the part either. Does this sound normal? The hammer looks to be in good condition. I have the gun stripped completely down and don't see anything out of the ordinary. I have pictures, Trying to avoid the dreaded trip to the gun smith but it's not looking too good.
 
I'd sue for non-support, the 6906 hammer does not have a spur. Their is a notch for da on the hammer that contacts the sear mechanism. Take it to a gunsmith.
 
I had this happen once when I reassembled a pistol and installed the sear, not being careful to make sure the sear spring was in the correct position against the sear, it caused the hammer to follow the slide, as there was no spring pressure on the sear to push it into the hammer notches, just a thought.....it worked fine in double action though, much like what you are describing....
 
Last edited:
You can see what i'm referring to in these pics, showing the view from the rear with grip removed, the first pic shows the sear spring IMPROPERLY oriented, where the top of the spring appears behind the sear, and the second pic is the spring properly oriented. The hammer and strut are removed for clarity. A broken or bent sear spring will have the same effect.....
 

Attachments

  • 20131113_194117.jpg
    20131113_194117.jpg
    67.9 KB · Views: 52
  • 20131113_194222.jpg
    20131113_194222.jpg
    67.3 KB · Views: 51
You can see what i'm referring to in these pics, showing the view from the rear with grip removed, the first pic shows the sear spring IMPROPERLY oriented, where the top of the spring appears behind the sear, and the second pic is the spring properly oriented. The hammer and strut are removed for clarity. A broken or bent sear spring will have the same effect.....
I have it completely torn down and I didn't notice to see if it was in correctly as I did it. I will reassemble it, making sure that it is in correctly and go from there. Do these springs wear out very often?
 
I have it completely torn down and I didn't notice to see if it was in correctly as I did it. I will reassemble it, making sure that it is in correctly and go from there. Do these springs wear out very often?

Not typically, but they can bend from (read me) improper installation, I have broken the retaining pin, however.
 
Back
Top