929, 9mm, PC ?

[Mnspring]

The below, is also posted under:
627, 4” vs 5”.
Thought, perhaps someone new, would see 929,
and give their thoughts. Thanks

In Waffling on the 627, (A 627 is still on the table,)
I Purchased a, S&W 929, 9mm, PC, Revolver.
(From Buds Gun Shop)
However the Titanium Cyl, on the 929, and a longer bbl, tipped the boat.
and Price, all told, about 135.00 cheeper.

It was shipped to local gun shop.
I Refused it. It had a .012 Cyl Gap,
(In comparison my 625, with about, 3,000 rounds, has a .005 gap)

It had a 5.75 S/A trigger pull. (In Comparison the 625, 2.5)
Never measured the DA, at that point, why bother.

In calling Buds, to get a call tag to the gun shop.
The, C.S. person at Buds, “Alluded” to, .012 was within Specks.

.002 very fine target work, but not dependent.
(The Monson Dan Wesson's, wonderful to change gaps very easily)
A, .006, is, 'dependent',
(Very dirty/hot, it will still not drag)
I have found, .004-5 is a great comprise.
At, .008-.010, time to put in a shim.

But a, NEW, Top of the Line Performance Center,
leaving the factory with, .012. ?

What are the odds that the next one will be better?
If you have one, what are your thoughts on it?
If anyone has one, would like to know, what your Cyl Gap is.

Not having a 9mm revolver before,
perhaps, the Cyl Gap is different?
then in a, .45ACP, .45 Colt, .44Mag/Special, .357/.38Spc, or .32, or, .22.

Or is, Buds, getting, Seconds, from S&W, (That’s why cheeper & Free shipping ?)

 

[Lou_the_welder]

I just measured mine. It has a .007. Unloaded.

I remember reading somewhere that on a Smith. .005- .012? Was acceptable? I may be wrong on this.

My thoughts on the gun..

It is one of my indispensable 8 shooters! I will get around buying another. Im currently working on its evil half brother ,the 986 pro - testing various bullet diameters and loads. Trying out some Bayou Bullets .356 9mms (powder coated).

Some forum members have reported using bigger bullets in them. Up to a .357. I used a 38/357 crowning tool on mine and it fit. Just something to consider.

I have not had to warranty mine in any way and it has run flawlessy!

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[Ignatz]

I have 2, one's 8 thou and the other (wife's) is 6 thou.

 

[Mnspring]

I have 2, one's 8 thou and the other (wife's) is 6 thou.

Thank you.
So now, have a, .006, .007, .008
from people that have one in their hands.


Reinforcing the .012, is to big.
Especially on a NEW, un-fired, 'Performance' model.

 

[Lou_the_welder]

Although i think .012 is a little big- remember: b/c gaps effect velocity of bullet. Not accuracy. Thats the bleed off of the cylinder.

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[Mnspring]

Although i think .012 is a little big- remember: b/c gaps effect velocity of bullet. Not accuracy. Thats the bleed off of the cylinder.

Yes, a larger gap, will affect M.V., but 30-60 fps, really does not matter to me.

Just that the Cyl Gap, (Playing with several 'Monson', Dan Wesson's), where one could very easily adjust the Cyl Gap, showed me, .004 was optimum, between, accuracy, and reliability. At .008 and after, accuracy fell off very fast.

At this point, I am still thinking, .012 is WAY to big.
If I picked up a well used S&W, and the gap was that big, it would be shim time.

OK, in a well used, off the shelf, firearm.

NOT, in a, NEW, "Finely Crafted, Finely Tuned, Performance Model". (as S&W's advertisement)

Thank you for your report of what you have.
I Still would like more reports.
Thanks.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

The below, is also posted under:
627, 4” vs 5”.

I answered you over there since I saw that first.

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[steelslaver]

With a Smith there is no shim that will fix excess B/C. Need to shave rear shoulder so you can turn barrel back one revolution.

 

[Mnspring]

Swell, Buds called me today, They got the 929 back, and asked me what the problem was.
(Gee, thy did not read the notes from the person I talked to, on last Friday ???)

So, May 10, I ordered, (And PAID), May 19 it arrives,
May 24, Buds called, and tells me the gun IS WITHIN SPECKS,
(Which NO Where, on Buds, S&W’s, or ANY other place, are the, ’Specks’, listed)
And they will send another one,
BUT, if it is with in Specks, I, will have to pay for return, I will have to pay a, ‘Re-Stocking’, fee.

Told then Just send back the money.

OK, Buds said, we will get it rolling, and in 1 or 2 days, will get it processed,
then in 3 to 5 days, you will get the credit.

So, they had, $1,000.00, for FREE, of My Money.
for 16 days (at minimum, and could have it for 22 days)

First time I ordered a gun from Buds,
and the Last time.

Now to be fare, this is not, ALL, Buds fault.
The Major fault lies in S&W, for producing a firearm,
which they state over and over and over, and over,
How, ‘Perfect’, and ‘Hand Crafted’ it is.

And the Next fault, lies in the 100’s of thousands of people,
that, ACCEPT, a faulty piece.
Which is NEW, and stated:
“From hand-cutting and fitting to fine tuning for precision, these firearms are top performers. Products from the Performance Center are the ultimate expression of old-world craftsmanship blended with modern technology.”

Just add a used 929/627, to my list of things to look at/for,
when I go to a Gun shop/Gun show.

And as long as, S&W can sell, what it makes, (now), very cheaply,
and sell to people that don’t care or know.
They will keep doing it. Because their is NO need to change.

So, Thanks for all the replies.
However I see, NO Benefit, to the, ‘Performance’, model S&W’s

No more need to comment.

Thanks

 

[Jolr]

I agree completely. My new 986 has a visible defect in rifling at the muzzle and has terrible accuracy. I was going to buy a 929 but I am buying a Dan Wesson Silverback. More money but I know it will be a quality piece!

 

[BLUEDOT37]

...but I am buying a Dan Wesson Silverback. More money but I know it will be a quality piece!

Might as well good for the 10mm, it's only a little more than "more".

.

 

[Pdxrealtor]

Swell, Buds called me today, They got the 929 back, and asked me what the problem was.
(Gee, thy did not read the notes from the person I talked to, on last Friday ???)

So, May 10, I ordered, (And PAID), May 19 it arrives,
May 24, Buds called, and tells me the gun IS WITHIN SPECKS,
(Which NO Where, on Buds, S&W’s, or ANY other place, are the, ’Specks’, listed)
And they will send another one,
BUT, if it is with in Specks, I, will have to pay for return, I will have to pay a, ‘Re-Stocking’, fee.

Told then Just send back the money.

OK, Buds said, we will get it rolling, and in 1 or 2 days, will get it processed,
then in 3 to 5 days, you will get the credit.

So, they had, $1,000.00, for FREE, of My Money.
for 16 days (at minimum, and could have it for 22 days)

First time I ordered a gun from Buds,
and the Last time.

Now to be fare, this is not, ALL, Buds fault.
The Major fault lies in S&W, for producing a firearm,
which they state over and over and over, and over,
How, ‘Perfect’, and ‘Hand Crafted’ it is.

And the Next fault, lies in the 100’s of thousands of people,
that, ACCEPT, a faulty piece.
Which is NEW, and stated:
“From hand-cutting and fitting to fine tuning for precision, these firearms are top performers. Products from the Performance Center are the ultimate expression of old-world craftsmanship blended with modern technology.”

Just add a used 929/627, to my list of things to look at/for,
when I go to a Gun shop/Gun show.

And as long as, S&W can sell, what it makes, (now), very cheaply,
and sell to people that don’t care or know.
They will keep doing it. Because their is NO need to change.

So, Thanks for all the replies.
However I see, NO Benefit, to the, ‘Performance’, model S&W’s

No more need to comment.

Thanks

Ya, I agree about buds. If you search my user name for the trr8 thread you'll see I got a clunker (locally) and was in disbelief just as you. Smith and Wesson fixed it all, but..... Their qc is in the crapper.