9mm

[redlevel]

I haven't owned a 9mm pistol for near 35 years. Last one, I believe, was a Model 39-2. I have stuck with .45acp in semis, and .38/.357 in da revolvers.

I am about to come into possession of maybe 2K rounds of 9mm hardball. Mostly WWB 115 grain, I believe. I put a SCCY pistol on law away at the shop, less than $200 OTD with my discount. I intend to buy a gen 1 keltec sub 2K from a customer. I would like to buy a quality hi-cap pistol that shoots 9. Not a glop. I am leaning toward Beretta 92. We don't see a whole lot of them. We see more Taurus clones of the 92. I'm wondering about the quality of the Taurus? What are other suggestions, not striker fired?

Going to pick up the ammo tomorrow. My brother and I are buying out a widow's stock. We sold her guns for her at the shop last year, and got dang good money for her. We probably made 8% after fees, etc. I spent hours cleaning up some of the guns. We ARE NOT taking advantage. She wants the ammo gone, and we made an offer on the whole shebang. If there i more than we think after inventory, we will give her more. Anyhow, we will probably have a good bit less than wholesale after all is said and done. There is probably 10K 9mm, about that much 7.62/.39, and what else in the pile, to be discovered. Some .22lr.

Mostly just looking for suggestions for 9mm pistols.

 

[Bozz10mm]

I would suggest the S&W 2.0 Compact

 

[Redcoat3340]

Based on what you're saying....I'd give Sigs a very hard look.

The 226 is the benchmark of the line and it comes in a bunch of different flavors. A good used one would suit you just fine.

Next, if you're a .45 guy....I'd look closely at the Colt 1911 9mm Competition model. (I have one and like it a bunch). All the familiarity of your favorite 1911 but in 9mm.

Finally comes the one you should buy: Browning Hi Power. THE classic hi cap 9....single action so it's like your 1911s....and the epitome of Browning's genius. Remove the mag safety and spend a couple of bucks on a trigger job if you want and you won't find a better gun.

(If you're into history....consider a Walter P1 (improved P38) or a S&W 5906, another icon of the 9mm world.

Now there's nothing wrong with the Beretta 92....but the HiPower is simply a better gun and you're probably used to the Colt. I've had Taurus...both the 92 and the 99 and while they are okay, they are really second best guns. Get the original Beretta or the Hi Power.

Let us know what you decide.

 

[ContinentalOp]

What do you plan to use the gun for? Range use only? Concealed carry? Home defense? Combination? Do you know what magazines the Keltec Sub-2000 uses? It has compatibility with different pistols, such as the Beretta 92FS or Sig P226.

I'm a big fan of the Beretta 92FS. Mine serves a home defense role. While it can be carried concealed, it is a big gun and can be challenging depending on your build and clothing. The size may also affect your ability to shoot it, but even with my small-medium hands I can shoot it well, even better than 1911s. Mine has been completely reliable. There is also a compact version of the 92, but I don't know what its current availability is.

If you're wanting something that's more of an all-around choice, I think a Sig P229 or M11-A1 would be a good choice. It's what I would pick in your place. I've shot a P228, the earlier version of the current P229, and I liked it. It's more compact than the 92 so can be carried concealed a bit easier. It can also use P226 mags for more capacity and may be compatible with the Keltec. Of course, if you don't plan to carry it concealed the P226 would be a good choice, too.

A lot of people like the CZ75 series of pistols. They make models that have manual safeties and can be carried cocked-and-locked as well as models with decocking levers, like the Sigs. I don't have any experience with them, but they often come highly recommended. CZ has some other models that may suit your needs, but I'm not that familiar with them.

You mentioned using .45ACP semi-autos, but you don't say what kind. There are .45s other than the 1911, after all. If you do use 1911s, then you can get 1911s in 9mm or, as mentioned, a Browning Hi-Power.

One hammer-fired 9mm that has piqued my interest is the Beretta PX4 Compact, especially the Compact Carry variant. I have yet to handle one, but it seems to generate overall favorable reviews. They also make full-size and subcompact variants.

HK has some hammer-fired 9mm pistols that may be worth looking into. I don't have any experience with them, but they have a solid reputation. I actually don't have much intererst in HK pistols, but I do find the USP Compact and P2000 series guns appealing.

Also, the S&W M&P series guns are all striker-fired.

 

[gonerydin]

I have owned a SCCY CPX2 for 3 years. My suggestion is to put you $200 towards something else.


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[Kanewpadle]

I would stay away from Taurus. There's a reason why they have a lifetime warranty.

I'm thinking you're not a plastic gun guy. While Beretta makes a great gun, I can't stand slide mounted safeties or decockers. To each their own.

I would take a good look at a CZ75 or EAA Witness Match Elite. Maybe a good used Sig P226. I wouldn't pay the price for a new one. Or a Ruger P89 or P95.

Also I see Ruger is now making an SP101 in 9MM.

 

[nimbly]

I like Kel-Tec guns. A lot of people don't. I had a Sccy and got rid of it, not because it was a bad pistol. It was accurate enough and always fired. I know a lot of people dislike them.

I had a Tarus 617 and it was ****. The star the was engaged by the rotating thing was all chewed up so sometimes it would turn the cylinder and sometime it wouldn't. No an auto, but kinda turned me off to the company.

I was never crazy about striker fired, but I really like my SD9. Light, small-ish, and holds 16+1.

 

[rwsmith]

I have a Keltec Sub 2000

It's handy dandy and fun to shoot.

Taurus' pistols have had a more solid reputation than their revolvers though I still wouldn't class them top tier. I do like the hammer config my son's Taurus.

He also has a Springfield XD compact that is VERY nice to hold and shoot. If I practice with it I can be good.

I have a Sig that shoots well

I like 3rd gen Smiths and the M&P line is good.

 

[Cardboard_killer]

I would take a good look at a CZ75 or EAA Witness Match Elite.

I'd get a CZ 75 pre-B. You can find them beaten up at Buds Guns for under $300, clean them up and have a fantastic shooter. They are, I believe, the most popular 9mm non-striker fired pistols in the world.

Alternatively, a 1911 in 9mm is probably a gun you're familiar with.

 

[chief38]

I sold my Belgium Browning 9mm years ago (not a fan of 9mm) but if I were ever to get back into the 9mm game, I'd get another 98% or better Belgium made Browning Hi Power. I was very impressed with the gun itself - just never liked the 9mm caliber.

 

[bigwheelzip]

The aluminum framed/steel slide compact, CZ PCR, for me is as dependable and accurate on the range as it's full framed 75 series cousins, but small and light enough to be my EDC.

 

[petepeterson]

I'm a Hi-Power fan, but if I were just starting out, I'd take a hard look at a CZ.
There's always the SIG 320 if you want to stay with what the military will use in the future.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Beretta's have served me well since 1988......IMHO the Centurion is the best of the breed..... full frame and compact (4.25") slide. Thou I am partial to the 92 Compact..... which is really a midsize gun.

CZ are great guns for the money......

a Browning/FN Hi-power is a great classic 9mm .... if you are going to have only one.

Any of the Smith 3rd gen metal guns...... 915, 5906 (all stainless steel) 6906 hi-cap compact........

I moved away from Sigs as the Smith equivalent guns are a bit smaller......

 

[p8riot]

I'd get a CZ 75 pre-B. You can find them beaten up at Buds Guns for under $300, clean them up and have a fantastic shooter. They are, I believe, the most popular 9mm non-striker fired pistols in the world.

Alternatively, a 1911 in 9mm is probably a gun you're familiar with.

Ditto the CZ. Accurate, ergonomically excellent, soft shooting, will eat anything. Average cost (unless of course until you get into the custom shop guns).

 

[Mistered]

They are, I believe, the most popular 9mm non-striker fired pistols in the world.

Ditto this! Only owned a couple nines but of those, and all I have shot it's nearly the best in it class second only to a Browning. I bought a CZ 75 BD a few years ago as I was looking fo an all steel hammer fired nine. Didn't know much about them but I quickly learned why they are so popular- price, quality an possibly the most accurate nine of all! Mine is the decocker model and if I had to do it again I would find a 'B' model SA as they have a much better trigger than the decocker but that's not an issue of quality but just the design.

 

[redlevel]

Thanks for the feedback. Just what I wanted.
The SCCY pistol is more or less a novelty. We have sold a good
many over the last few years and had positive comments.

The sub 2K I am looking at is one a customer has. It is first generation
and uses Glock mags. I would use it as a range/fun/golf cart gun.

I am a big fan of the 1911. I might see what I can get a new Rock Island 9mm for,
with my employee discount. I know about 1911s, and am comfortable with them.
Problem is, we see very few used 9mm 1911s. Also, the suggestion about the CZ
from Bud's sounds interesting.

 

[ColbyBruce]

Glop? You crack me up with your disdain for the most popular, compact 9mm handgun on the market.

I have the following seventeen 9mm pistols. BHP, HK P7 PSP, Beretta 92fs, S&W Shield and 3953, Glock 17/19/26, Sig P225/228/250c/250sc/SP2022. I like them all, but if I had to buy ONE and had a $500.00 or so budget, the Sig SP2022 would be my choice. I like mine so much I that I bought my son one for a combination birthday/Christmas present.

Here is a photo of my Sig SP2022 and P250c 9mm pistols. SP2022 is DA/SA and the P250 is DAO with a repeat pull.

 

[ColbyBruce]

I would not consider the clunky, chunky yet robust Ruger P series guns as parts are getting scarce. CZ makes a fine pistol, my son has a few of them.

 

[Rio Laxas]

I would go with a used P226 or a CZ 75 based on your requirements. Both are excellent pistols that are a joy to shoot.

 

[Mistered]

I would go with a used P226 or a CZ 75

Ha - kind of ironic - when i bought my CZ 75 BD I had been contemplating it AND a P226 that was setting next to it - well after a couple weeks I decided on the 226 but it was gone - but the CZ was still there and for $150 less - so I own the CZ and have NEVER regretted it.

 

[Arik]

You work at a gun store and have a hard time finding a 9mm handgun?

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[Rio Laxas]

Ha - kind of ironic - when i bought my CZ 75 BD I had been contemplating it AND a P226 that was setting next to it - well after a couple weeks I decided on the 226 but it was gone - but the CZ was still there and for $150 less - so I own the CZ and have NEVER regretted it.

I shoot the P226 better than any other 9mm that I have shot except the SIG P210. I don't currently have a CZ 75, but I will be getting a full size model eventually. I had the CZ 75 compact and thought it was an excellent pistol, but the grip was just a little bit too short for me to shoot comfortably in combination with the non-upswept beavertail. When I buy one, it will have both the upswept beavertail and be a full size model. I'm leaning towards the SA and then maybe converting it back to DA/SA.

 

[Mistered]

Odd sidebar to my CZ purchase - I didn't know much about them when I bought it and I was showing it to a guy who had more experience with them and he said 'Something is wrong here - this gun is marked CZ 85 B but it sure appears to be a 75 BD' Well not knowing I shot a pic and posted it on the CZ forum and that was the general consensus so I called CZ - USA and they pulled the build file and it WAS in fact built as a 75 BD! Their first question was do all the serial #s match to which they do - conclusion? Mismarked at the factory as an 85 B!

 

[ColbyBruce]

Personally, being both practical and cheap, I would buy a Glock so it could share mags with the Kel-Tec carbine. But then, I would not buy the Kel-Tec or any other pistol caliber carbine.

 

[Cardboard_killer]

Mine is the decocker model and if I had to do it again I would find a 'B' model SA as they have a much better trigger than the decocker but that's not an issue of quality but just the design.

To get the best CZ trigger you have remove the trigger block, which is one of the things that makes the B version the B version. That's why I suggested the pre-B. I carry a P01, the alum frame decocker model. The trigger is good and so is accuracy, but I also have a nice looking chromed pre B and the trigger is insane. Way too light to be carried cocked and locked.

 

[Richard Simmons]

My suggestions would be a CZ-75b, SIG M11A1 or Beretta 92 FS in no particular order.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

My first automatic was a 39-2. I would say a S&W M&P 9 or a 9c will do you well. Many LE agencies are rotating the inventories for fresh guns and LE M&P's are a great price and often lightly used!

Older 1911's in 9mm didn't have the feed ramp angle worked out yet and have feed problems, that no amount of polishing will fix!

Try and make your 2000 rounds last more than a week!

Ivan

 

[Ray1970]

If I were in the market for a hammer fired 9mm I’d lean towards Sig or CZ. I wouldn’t shy away from the right deal on a Beretta or a Hi-Power as they are both excellent pistols as well. My preference is just for Sig or CZ.

As far as the Taurus made Beretta look a likes, they are actually decent pistols. I hate Taurus with a passion and will never own another one after a bad experience with one of their revolvers years ago but I’ve known quite a few people who have had their Beretta 92 knock offs and never had a problem with them so if that’s what you think you might want I wouldn’t push you away from them. Plus, you should be able to buy three of them for what I paid for my last P226.

 

[redlevel]

You work at a gun store and have a hard time finding a 9mm handgun?

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Have a hard time finding one like I want.

 

[apollo99]

Buy a Glock 19, shoot up the 9mm rounds with it, sell it for $20 less than you paid for it. I'm a big fan of 1911s, but for just plain tactical or plinking, the Glock 19 is a great choice. Cheepish, functional, dependable and they hit where they are aimed. I bet after you put 2000 rounds through it, you may keep the darn thing.