A boycott you might want to support.

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Lee Jarrett
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First, let me say that I had two very good friends who died in Vietnam, good men, each one of whom never got to meet one of their sons.

During that time, Jane Fonda was aiding and abetting the enemy. She also posed at the controls of antiaircraft weapons in Hanoi. In nearly nearly every way she could, she dishonored our country.

Perhaps you are too young to remember her being a traitor to our country and to our service men and women. I am not. And I will never forget "Hanoi Jane" Fonda, nor forgive her for her actions.

Now she is appearing in a movie, playing the part of Nancy Reagan. I will not say anything more about this - you can judge for yourself if this is in any way appropriate.

I am personally boycotting this movie starring a woman who should have been hanged for her horrible crimes, in the role of a woman, still living, who was wife to a beloved President who believed in our country with all his heart and soul. The name of the movie is "The Butler."

Use your own judgment on this. Just sayin'. I don't consider this to be "politics." It transcends Democrat or Republican, conservative or liberal. I consider this to be a very just retribution to a woman who deserves nothing more than universal scorn by all Americans.

John

 

[A10]

I would not watch that pile of dreck if I was paid to. I have made my opinion of the subhuman slime well known. Anyone who would cast it in the role of Nancy Reagan obviously did it out of malice.

 

[Onomea]

While Fonda did go to North Vietnam, and was willingly used by the enemy for propaganda purposes, the story about her passing notes from the POWs to their captors appears to be false: snopes.com: Jane Fonda and American POWs in North Vietnam

 

[sheepdawg09]

I have a hard time talking myself into believing snopes.com. After reading one of their claims, I still have as many questions as answers.

 

[pawncop]

What she did was wrong. Posing for pictures on that anti-aircraft gun, giving support to our foe, she will not be supported by me on any level.

 

[Calaveras Slim]

I was on my 2nd tour in Nam when those pix of her were taken. Solid blow to the gut. I hated the traitor then and 40 years later, I still hate the traitor.

May she roast in hell.

adicho

 

[pownal55]

Fonda has paid a life long price for her stance on the war as well she should. A large portion of America will never forgive her or accept her actions or opinions. As far as that movie goes I wouldn't see it anyway. It looks like one of those that just stirs the pot of racism in this country and we don't need anymore of that.

 

[chief38]

I'm sure her Father Henry was deeply saddened and embarrassed back when it happened. UNFORTUNATELY......... Hollywood NOW does that stuff all the time and they think its cool (ie: Dennis Rodman, Sean Penn, Johnny Depp, etc.) and that's why I have the lowest opinion of those type of Hollywood actors. Back in the WWll era most actors did what they could to support our nation either by joining up, selling Bonds, entertaining the Troops, etc. but now it's a different crop in Hollywood. NOT a change for the good either!!

 

[DeathGrip]

Oprah is in it too.

 

[kraigwy]

Fonda has paid a life long price for her stance on the war

Yeah I can tell, her response to Vietnam Vets was "Get over it".

I'm a Vietnam Vet..............Get over it? Not likely.

 

[4011]

I don't watch any of the films she was in period.

 

[S&W45Colt]

Orca and Hanoi Jane, has a ring kind of like VD and Lice doesn't it?

I guess I'll have to ask for Forgiveness for being nasty about other people, but both of those women are responsible for running American culture down in their own way in my book.

 

[S&W45Colt]

I'm sure her Father Henry was deeply saddened and embarrassed back when it happened. UNFORTUNATELY......... Hollywood NOW does that stuff all the time and they think its cool (ie: Dennis Rodman, Sean Penn, Johnny Depp, etc.) and that's why I have the lowest opinion of those type of Hollywood actors. Back in the WWll era most actors did what they could to support our nation either by joining up, selling Bonds, entertaining the Troops, etc. but now it's a different crop in Hollywood. NOT a change for the good either!!

Some like Carole Lombard and Glen Miller gave their lives supporting this country. Bob Hope and Gary Sinese spent/spend a good portion of their lives supporting the troops. Those are the examples more should follow. I agree with you.

 

[pownal55]

Yeah I can tell, her response to Vietnam Vets was "Get over it".

I'm a Vietnam Vet..............Get over it? Not likely.

She can try to play it down or diminish it all she wants, won't do any good. This IS her legacy and she can't get away from it.

 

[Engineer1911]

Sorta reminds me of an email quote, " God forgives, Marines arrange the meeting." For a convention, call the Air Force. B-52s send large group invitations.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Sorta reminds me of an email quote, " God forgives, Marines arrange the meeting." For a convention, call the Air Force. B-52s send large group invitations.

Gotta love those BUFF's!!

I don't watch her at all cause she stinks as an actor.

They could have picked any number of older actresses to play the part. Fonda must be working for cheap!!

 

[handejector]

Read my edit in the first post.
Yes, in my opinion, she is a traitor.
She committed treason.

During that time, Jane Fonda was aiding and abetting the enemy, and actually passed notes given to her by men in the Hanoi Hilton, intended for their families, to the Viet Cong.

I do not believe this is true.
I believe that her proven actions, like the AA photo and the radio broadcasts, condemn her, and it is harmful to our argument against her to perpetuate that myth.
I will not degrade this board with that unproven myth.
Don't post it here again.

I'll also state that I do not have 100% confidence in Snopes, but they present a very good writeup in this case.

 

[Rintimtin]

I am too young, but I recieved an education about this from my Father in Law, a Vietnam Vetern. He served in the Navy on a River Patrol Boat.

I will support this boycott, for this and some other reasons.

 

[SW_shooter]

I don't know if Fonda did what she was accused of or not. As for Snopes I take their writings with a grain of salt. They have their own political agenda and it leans significantly to the left. There have been times when they themselves have slanted stories to fit their ideology.

I have to wonder why the director and producers of the movie would cast Fonda in a role where the character is a loved and respected person and Fonda isn't. Casting Jane in a villainous role would have made much more sense if you were intent on giving her employment.

I'm torn on seeing the movie, even before hearing about Fonda being in it I had a problem with Opra (intentional) being in it. I just cannot stand that woman.

 

[JJEH]

I would not watch that pile of dreck...

I like that

 

[S&WIowegan]

I was drafted in 1965 but wasn't sent to the Nam. A substantial number of my close friends did the Nam. All survived...one has extreme PTSD problems.

I despise Fonda totally and have finally realized she is an empty shell who plays roles in real life. Remember the adoring trophy wife to Ted Turner doing the tomahawk chop? She has tried to apologize for Hanoi, sorta, but who can believe anything from her.

I have noticed the movie promos don't mention her. FYI: some feel the movie tries to make the Reagans appear insensitive racists toward the butler.

 

[feralmerril]

Cant mrs regan herself stop fonda from playing her? If not, why not? Doesnt she have a say in it? How about mike regan? I would think he would be the first to stop it if he could. If nothing else I would like to hear their views on it. Can the studios have a actor play someone yet alive against their wishs? I suppose sometimes they know they wll be sued but just figure its just part of the cost of doing business to clearing millions more. Here is my kicker: There obvisely must be at least a hundred female actors that could play the part as well if not better, julia roberts come to mind. I say this: The studios knew darn well what they were doing and up against and strickly used fonda to cause huge controversy knowing it will stir up huge intrest for far more paid viewers than any other actress they could think of. It damn sure wasnt done without calculating thought!

 

[gdnagle]

Hanoi jane also - 2005 "Jane Fonda to oppose Iraq war on bus tour
SANTA FE (AP) — Actress and activist Jane Fonda says she intends to take a cross-country bus tour to call for an end to U.S. military operations in Iraq."


and least we forget.

 

[kraigwy]

Setting Hanoi Jane aside, speaking of celebrities and Vietnam

We can't forget the love of my life, the wonderful Ann Margret

ann margret in vietnam - Bing Images

 

[old bear]

"The Butler."

John, thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of going to see that movie this evening. I guess we will have to stay in and watch pre-season football instead.

 

[GaryS]

Cant mrs regan herself stop fonda from playing her? If not, why not?

No. Public figures, First Amendment, all that law stuff. It not only has to be libelous, it has to be done with malice.

 

[jgh4445]

Hope the country she does the cross country bus tour in is IRAQ!

 

[microgunner]

I'm with you. I also vividly remember Hanoi Jane.
Boycotted.

 

[lonejacklarry]

No, I don't like Jane Fonda either. In a shameless attempt to highjack this thread, I submit the following:

Raquel Welch
Bearcat, RVN
Christmas Day, 1967

 

[Bekeart]

Butler

John, thanks for the heads up. I was thinking of going to see that movie this evening. I guess we will have to stay in and watch pre-season football instead.

Unfortunately I saw that movie last night. (Arm twisted by lady friend who wanted to see because of Oprah.)

Posting my feelings about the movie and what seemed to be indoctrinational theme would get me banned.

Looking for my old "I'm Not FONDA Hanoi Jane!" tee shirt.

Bekeart