A foolish thing happened this morning.

[hdtwice]

Samurai saying ....
"When you leave your gate in the morning, always act as if the enemy is in sight"

Something to chew on.

 

[Steve912]

In all of the years that I worked Homicide in Miami-Dade, I don't think that any of the victims woke up that morning expecting to get murdered later in the day. Point being, evil is fluid and can be anywhere at anytime. Often, when you least expect.

Second Chance had a VHS tape years ago, with interviews and reenactments of a slew of officer shootings--long, like three hours worth.

In every interview, Davis made a point of asking "was there anything different about that morning (day, evening)? Anything that made you think something might happen?". Obviously, Davis had a proprietary interest in everyone buying and wearing a vest, but every officer answered in the negative. IOW, you won't know you need a vest or a gun, until it's too late to get one if you don't already have one.

 

[Steve912]

Agree.....Going to Walmart? Absolutely. Going for bike ride around my little neighborhood? Nope

One word: "Oblivious".

 

[edprof]

I carry almost everywhere I go. With some recent changes in the CCW laws in Arkansas, I carry even to church. The world has some crazies in it.

 

[GerSan69]

Hell, That ain't nothing. In my later years as a uniformed cop, I made it all the way to my work car after roll call before discovering I forgot my gun at home a couple times. Had to "borrow" one from a friend on the outgoing shift. (Yep, "embarrassed" isn't a strong enough term!!!)

 

[jscott]

Hell, That ain't nothing. In my later years as a uniformed cop, I made it all the way to my work car after roll call before discovering I forgot my gun at home a couple times. Had to "borrow" one from a friend on the outgoing shift. (Yep, "embarrassed" isn't a strong enough term!!!)

GerSan69, I think that happens alot.
Working a precinct desk one night, the desk LT asked me to drive to his house and get his badge that he had forgotten. " And while you're there, get my gun".

 

[Mister X]

I just read this somewhere, but can't remember where. It was about SD carry.

The narrator was explaining basically this "if you need a gun with you at all times to feel safe, then your mental thinking is not right."

He actually recommends you don't carry on occasion to help break that dependent thought. To get you thinking like you should be, due to being unarmed and vulnerable. Something you should already be doing, even with a gun.

Pretty much people rely too much on "having the gun" that they forget it's really ALL THE OTHER STUFF that's really important, and a gun is just a last resort.

Perhaps it's good you went without for a day, as it seems you were more aware and observant. There is so much more to SD than the gun aspect.

Maybe this... Do you carry religiously? You may not be as safe as you believe. - www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com

 

[Wise_A]

Bingo--it was Cunningham.

 

[BE Mike]

I think you're both deliberately missing the point of the exercise. It's aimed at the people who FREAK OUT anytime they are required to go someplace where they are simply not permitted to carry. Say a military installation or a penitentiary where they can't even have a gun in the car. The same people who will not enter any business that prohibits firearm because they might get caught without The Mighty Boomstick

If you absolutely can not face the world without a gun you're too dependent on the gun for your safety

I understand completely, and I think that "leaving your gun at home" as a training tool, is not a good training tool. I also think that "gun free zones" are a magnet for crackpots.

 

[BE Mike]

Maybe this... Do you carry religiously? You may not be as safe as you believe. - [url]www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com[/url]

He has a lot of credentials and isn't afraid of blowing his own horn. That being said, it doesn't make every one of his ideas right. I still disagree with his "teaching tool" about going unarmed.

 

[BAM-BAM]

Bump................ see my "Heads Up; on doing a Holiday season dumb thing" Thread in the Lounge............. anytime; anywhere...... don't get lazy or complacent.

 

[Mister X]

That being said, it doesn't make every one of his ideas right.

I never said it did. I've never agreed with anyone 100% of the time, but I think he makes many valid points. I shared it here because it sounded like the unnamed article that the person I responded to was referencing.

 

[deputydon]

Once I left my duty weapon at home and went on patrol. Another deputy pointed this out and I returned home and retrieved it. NEVER happened again. Any officer that says he never left his is probably fibbing. Now days I occasionally leave my phone, wallet, etc. Never leave the protection/defense device. Just sayin....

-don

 

[Wise_A]

I don't actually know about Cunningham's idea. Namely because, as I said, going unarmed is forced on me by the law and my routine. I'll probably be unarmed tomorrow at the grocery store, because I'll be stopping by the library, for instance. So it's sort of impossible for me to test.

Do I think that there are a lot of people who are unknowingly engaging in "talisman" thinking, and over-relying on their CCW? Hell yes.

 

[Protected One]

Hey! Does anybody remember the time that Duster340 carried an unloaded 629? LOL Hehehehehe

 

[Protected One]

Maybe this... Do you carry religiously? You may not be as safe as you believe. - [url]www.GrantCunningham.com www.GrantCunningham.com[/url]

Perhaps. But I'm safer than I'd be without it!

 

[Duster340]

Hey! Does anybody remember the time that Duster340 carried an unloaded 629? LOL Hehehehehe

Literally almost spit my coffee out when reading this LMAO. Hey, at least I didn't forget my gun home... Ha! Thanks for the laugh man.

 

[aguablanco]

Most of us live in good neighborhoods and do so without concern. What does concerns me is that bad people have transportation and can travel to those good neighborhoods. Not to mention that some people just do bad things, even in good neighborhoods. Always leave the house armed.
RichH

 

[Wise_A]

Perhaps. But I'm safer than I'd be without it!

Cunningham's point, IIRC, is that the gun doesn't prevent bad things from happening--the same as the seatbelt we often use in why-carry metaphors doesn't prevent accidents. In other words, "safe" means "bad things don't happen".

Now here's the part where you wouldn't drive without your seatbelt, so you wouldn't go out without your gun

 

[Doug M.]

Because, sometimes it is illegal; other times, clothing doesn't work well.

*
Your consideration of the law is one I'll accept. Clothing? Nope. All my clothes, from the most casual to my court attire, are chosen to be compatible with being armed. Period.

 

[Protected One]

Literally almost spit my coffee out when reading this LMAO. Hey, at least I didn't forget my gun at home... Ha! Thanks for the laugh man.

That's right!....you had something to THROW at a threat! LOL

 

[Protected One]

Cunningham's point, IIRC, is that the gun doesn't prevent bad things from happening--the same as the seatbelt we often use in why-carry metaphors doesn't prevent accidents. In other words, "safe" means "bad things don't happen".

Now here's the part where you wouldn't drive without your seatbelt, so you wouldn't go out without your gun

Safe, to me, DOESN'T mean bad things don't happen, but rather having the means/ability to overcome them.

 

[Brasky]

"Don't need it where I live" is a stupid saying.

Lots of bad things happen in good places

 

[adwjc]

Cunningham's point, IIRC, is that the gun doesn't prevent bad things from happening--the same as the seatbelt we often use in why-carry metaphors doesn't prevent accidents. In other words, "safe" means "bad things don't happen".

Now here's the part where you wouldn't drive without your seatbelt, so you wouldn't go out without your gun

If nothing else, Cunningham is a THINKER. I find him a very sensible writer.

He may not be the end all and be all of weapon training, but he certainly gets the gray matter kicking, which, if I recall correctly, is where the essence of survival starts.

 

[Wise_A]

Yeah, I've never seen any of them that I agree with 100%. I guess I partially agree with Cunningham that actually being in a lethal force scenario represents a lack of safety, in that one could lose and one's life will be significantly altered or disrupted. Which is where I partially disagree with Protected, but agree that winning sure beats losing!

Also, we gotta be real careful, civil discourse may have broken out in CC+SD. Pride cometh before the fall.

 

[Execpro]

A lot of good comments. I have only two. 1:If your inner voice is telling you to go back and get your gun, GET it. This is often called the 6th sense and I ALWAYS listen. 2: I would go back to SECURE the pistol. You might not have an issue going somewhere without it, but someone could break in and now you have armed a criminal. THAT would bother me ALOT. I have on two or three occasions over the years left the house and remember I did not secure a firearm in the safe and went back to do so. PLEASE understand I am not scolding or judging. Just my two cents. Be safe and enjoy life!