A question for SD owners: Galloway Guide Rods

Here's what I did. I pulled back the spring using the jaws of a vise grip and clamped down on the plastic guide rod. Unable to remove the cap by rotating or pulling, I put the hacksaw to it. Obviously, there's no turning back at this point. Then, I released the vise grip and removed the spring. A word of caution, when releasing the vise grip, make sure the flange end of the guide rod is pointing at something that doesn't easily break.

Using the same method to pull back the spring and clamp down on the stainless steel rod, I removed the button head screw with an allen wrench. I exchanged the springs which happily have the same inside diameters.

Now comes the hardest part. I manually had to pull back this stiffer spring to clamp the vise grip on to the stainless steel guide rod. After that, it was downhill. I put some blue loctite into the screw hole and reinstalled the button head.

Thanks for that explanation...if I decide to try it, I will first order a stock recoil spring assembly from S&W. I guess you can buy them...I couldn't see how to order them on the S&W website.

I may see if I can send my Galloway guide back to them, and have them remake it with an 18lb spring. Mine does extend from the end of the slide, so I don't know if they can do anything about that too...or if it would take a new rod.
 
Modraker, I was taught to shoot using the Weaver stance, point shoot with the front sight at center mass when I went to the police academy back in the late 80's. So for me, sight realignment is not a problem. The recoil to me isn't that bad.
 
Thanks for that explanation...if I decide to try it, I will first order a stock recoil spring assembly from S&W. I guess you can buy them...I couldn't see how to order them on the S&W website.

I may see if I can send my Galloway guide back to them, and have them remake it with an 18lb spring. Mine does extend from the end of the slide, so I don't know if they can do anything about that too...or if it would take a new rod.

The Smith & Wesson SD-VE parts list is, so far, an internet no show. Even Brownells doesn't appear to carry parts for it yet.

If your gun is a SD9VE, I don't think the 17# spring (if it truly produces 17 lbs of force) is going to create problems for you. Besides, Galloway offers only 15#, 17#, 20# and 22# springs.
 
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I tried to order a spare trigger return spring for a SD9VE and the S&W rep told me that they don't have a parts list yet for them and you cant order any spare parts.The gun has to be shipped back to them for any parts to be repaired .This was a month ago when I called.
 
Eric owner of Galloway..

FYI.. Eric just called me to talk about the Guide Rods being a tat to long on the new S&W SD-VE's..
He recognized the issue and will be making new Rods 30/1000 shorter. He asked that anyone with one sticking out to far , to get with him for a free replacement & free mailer to send the other back..
Peace
 
FYI.. Eric just called me to talk about the Guide Rods being a tat to long on the new S&W SD-VE's..
He recognized the issue and will be making new Rods 30/1000 shorter. He asked that anyone with one sticking out to far , to get with him for a free replacement & free mailer to send the other back..
Peace

I sent him an e-mail...their website says they aren't taking calls.

Is the issue of the rod being too long and sticking out of the slide merely cosmetic, or is it a possible functional problem?
 
No. It won't cause Functional Damage. I have already fired my .40 with the Rod & Handgun worked & responded just fine.. The only reason he is making the new shorter rod , is just to make it right. The factory didn't stick out , so why should Galloway's.. Again, GREAT CUSTOMER SERVICE FROM GALLOWAY... Eric & his wife Debbie....
 
The factory didn't stick out , so why should Galloway's.

The factory recoil assembly does stick out on mine...perhaps not quite as much as the Galloway rod does, but it's not flush. I'll try to take some pictures later.

If it's not a functional problem, I may just keep what I have. The stock assembly sure does feel "flimsy" by comparison.
 
FYI.. Eric just called me to talk about the Guide Rods being a tat to long on the new S&W SD-VE's..
He recognized the issue and will be making new Rods 30/1000 shorter. He asked that anyone with one sticking out to far , to get with him for a free replacement & free mailer to send the other back..
Peace

Thank you for this info, JoeCap. I put a feeler gauge between the slide face and the bottom of the screw head and it measures a mere .010" (10/1000 inch). That's fine for my particular SD40VE.
 
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Was it difficult to do? Please let us know how it works out!

SD40VE modified as follows:

- Galloway Precision stainless steel guide rod with original S&W recoil spring
- Apex Tactical spring kit to produce 6 lb trigger
- M&P 3-dot night sights

150 rounds of Speer Lawman 40SW 165gr FMJ --- Zero Malfunction

I love this gun!
 
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I heard from Eric at Galloway Precision. He said that the longer rod was merely a cosmetic issue and not a functional one, but they want their customers to be happy so they are offering correct-length replacements. He is mailing me a correct length guide rod assembly, with a mailing envelope to return the too-long assembly. I asked for one in black stainless this time.
 
Could you post a photo when you get it assembled? I am interested in how it looks with the shorter rod. Thanks.

I need to take a picture of it now...I don't have a set of feeler gauges, but the current Galloway rod does stick out a bit. Then I'll take a picture of the new rod installed in the slide for comparison.

I'm kinda having mixed feelings now about asking for the black stainless rod...but, the stock rod was black, so it won't look out of place. The stainless rod was much brighter than the slide anyway, so it's not like it was an absolute match.
 
I need to take a picture of it now...I don't have a set of feeler gauges, but the current Galloway rod does stick out a bit. Then I'll take a picture of the new rod installed in the slide for comparison.

I'm kinda having mixed feelings now about asking for the black stainless rod...but, the stock rod was black, so it won't look out of place. The stainless rod was much brighter than the slide anyway, so it's not like it was an absolute match.

You could polish the crown of your barrel (and barrel hood to finish the look) to match the polished rod.
 
You could polish the crown of your barrel (and barrel hood to finish the look) to match the polished rod.

Ah well....Eric has already sent the black stainless one, so I'll see how it looks. Worst case, I could buy another one in "silver" stainless, and alternate them...one for dress up, one for work... :p
 
Can anyone tell me.

I purchased the 20lb guide rod for my sd9ve and so far its done great. However my question relates to the plastic molding it sits in with in the lower. S&W contact senter couldn't even tell me. The question is will the molding hold up to the stress of the new lb rate. I did read that 115gr 9mm ammo produces 346fpsi so racking has been fine and i have about 2 stove pipes out of 300 rounds. Thanks!
 
The number you quote, 346, is more than likely the bullet energy as it leaves the muzzle.

The Muzzle Energy is specified in ft·lb and is independent of area. If so, the area, sq in isn't part of the measurement.

The value 346 is in clearly in the range of various ballistics tables for the Parabellum cartridge. Perhaps that's the term you are referring to.

And, of course, the higher the number, mostly likely the chamber pressure and recoil force will both be higher.
 
My SD40VE sports a 22lb Galloway Guide Rod.
No malfunctions w/ 180 grain factory loads. So far so good, over 250 rounds.
 

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