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Effective Jan. 1st of this year Colorado passed into law a 10 cent fee for each plastic bag a customer takes when shopping. The collected fee is broke down 60/40 with so much going to the store and the rest to the municipality where collected.

I usually shop at the local Safeway. I use their pickup service rather than going inside the store. I had placed an order for pickup on Jan.2nd and brought my own bags to put my food in. The order was brought out loosely in tubs and I bagged them in my vehicle and left. My next order was for Jan.10th and I again went to the store with bags for my groceries except that this time the employee had already bagged my items.

I told the employee that I didn't need the bags and wouldn't accept them. Yeah,I know it's only 20 cents and the person offered to refund the bag fee but my 71yr old brain had already kicked into another gear. I told him I was refusing the two bags and everything that was in them. Total value was only $38 but to me I was making a point.

That night I sent an email to Safeway Corporate with my complaint about their new procedure. Few days later I got a voicemail to call a woman at the local store. I returned the call and it didn't go well for the person on the other end. I was told that everything that leaves their store has to be in a bag due to Board of Health regs. I told her my order was all nonperishable items making her argument invalid. She also said that the bag fee wouldn't be refunded even though I never took them.

Before rudely hanging up on her I told her that while I lost 20 cents Safeway lost $38 and a customer of 34yrs shopping there.

That night I fired off another email to Corporate detailing my conversation with this woman and went into more detail about how their competitor handles this new procedure. I've done a few orders with King Soopers lately and my order is brought out loose and bags are offered if needed.

We are told to use recyclable bags and bring our own if possible. Now we have bags unnecessarily forced on us and charging us for them. Seems to me that this is a scheme to make extra money for an item whose cost was most likely already factored into operational costs.

Sorry for the long winded post.
 
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If we assume that the "stuff leaving the store must be in a bag" actually applies to pick-up, then the legislation charging 10c a bag is just another piece of poorly written law for which the US has become famous. Legislatures at all levels in this country seem incapable of foreseeing obvious consequences. SMH.
 
I thought it was just a King Soopers thing until I got some stuff at Cabelas and the guy asked me did I want to buy a bag. I said - here, too? He said it was a state law, then said wait a minute. He reached under the counter and pulled out a box and put my stuff in it. He said - we don't have to charge for a box.

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I told him I didn't mind paying for a bag, but he was so pleased with himself I thanked him and took my stuff.

It's this crazy state's fault, not the stores.

The other day I was pulling into Wal Mart and stopped for a lady who was waving some blue reusable Wal Mart bags at people in the parking lot. I thought she was nuts, then realized she was reminding everyone to bring their bags!

I don't let little stuff bug me. With what groceries cost these days, thirty cents for some bags is not a big deal.
 

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In NY plastic bags were outlawed. 5 cents for a paper bag. Now, most stores are not carrying them either.

If you go to an auto show or a home show or a boat show, the vendors all give away beautiful sewn fabric bags to hold their literature. You can easily pick up a dozen. Only need about 6 for routine shopping.

Our son lives in TN. and often has door-to-door grocery deliveries. He has so many bags that he often throws them away. When we go to visit, or he comes home, we pack the suitcases with tons of bags. You really need them for waste baskets, etc.

We p'd and moaned at the beginning. Not really a problem now.
 
Not a rant. We really need to stop letting the government think for us. Now is the time to push back, yes, even if it is only .20 cents. I never really thought of myself as old but I am really tired of others telling me how to live my life and why "fill in the blank'" is good for me when all I really want is to have a glass of bourbon by the pond with the dogs and my wife.
 
Someone already said it but I can't imagine getting wrapped around the axel over something that petty.

I used to work as a telemarketer, whenever a customer started the conversation screaming at me their odds of getting the issue resolved in their favor plummeted. I remember that when I'm dealing with CSRs now.

We get our groceries delivered apparently Walmart doesn't charge for paper bags. the bags are clearly to be reusable and we do. If I actually go to the store I take a reusable bag. I really don't think getting rid of plastic bags is a horrible idea.
 
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The bag fee was slightly annoying (I was living in Denver where that was the law for maybe a year prior to statewide adoption) but ive got a couple reusable bags now and it's entirely fine. It is kinda nuts how many bags I used to use, and how many I always find along all of our rivers out here everything I go fishing. Not too upset about it, and any excuse to go to soops or sprouts over safeway is appreciated.
 
Not a rant. We really need to stop letting the government think for us.

But the problem is that there are soooooo many dumb people that are clueless. Just look at the facts...

Bags pollute the atmosphere and use oil, many of us still drive gas guzzlers, most houses still have gas stoves, people waste energy by having un-needed air conditioners, etc,. etc. And don't even get me started about all those people that have hazardous guns.

I hope you get my point and my sarcasm. The above comments, although idiotic as they seem, are espoused by a lot of people and the news media supports all the drivel.

A previous thread talked about 1984. We're there now...
 
It's not the 20 cents. It's that you're patronizing a business and spending money there and you have to pay a nuisance charge, however minor, to leave with your purchases. Tons of such nuisance fees here in Vegas, as LVSteve will confirm, and it IS affecting business. There are casinos nationwide. BTW, I'm right.

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Colorado also got the new food delivery tax, those California refugees certainly like to ratchet up the cost of living and government oversight everywhere they go. We are fighting them here too. You would think that they would not want to turn their new home into what they fled, but it does not seem to work that way.
 
Have to agree with the OP, enough with the zip me fees!

When I ship things to friends/family in NY they are more excited

about receiving the once used plastic store bags used as packing

material. Reusable store bags are a terrific concept, but look

around next time you are3 in the grocery store, some of these

shoppers are using the same cloth sack for4ever and the thing is

filthy. What germs and bacteria are getting dragged around by

these, I'm saving the environment types by using this reusable

sack.
 
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Locally the plastic bags grocery stores use that are taken home and then thrown in the trash have caused a major problem at the incinerator where they get caught up in the mechanism that moves trash from the pile to the incinerator itself. They basically gum up the mechanism, so we're told. My wife and I have used a method of garbage disposal for 43 years. We put a paper garbage bag in the garbage can under the sink, they came out with the plastic bags years ago and we found that with the plastic bag on the outside of the paper sack that all but eliminated the odd soak through of items like the coffee filter/grounds. We have used this system until the ban has taken place and I hate admit that we have a stockpile of sacks and bags we are still using them up and committing a grevious sin according to the waste to energy plant. Eventually we will change over to the standard white plastic garbage bag, but until our supply of brown paper sack/plastic bag cover is gone we will endeavor to persevere. I don't mind the use of cloth bags from the store to the car, I never have experienced the bag failure or worse lost a six pack due to a paper handle failing as I did once with a paper sack.
 
Have to agree with the OP, enough with the zip me fees!

When I ship things to friends/family in NY they are more excited

about receiving the once used plastic store bags used as packing

material. Reusable store bags are a terrific concept, but look

around next time you are3 in the grocery store, some of these

shoppers are using the same cloth sack for ever and the thing is

filthy. What germs and bacteria are getting dragged around by

these, I'm saving the environment types by using this reusable

sack.

Oh I can see it now. The health department mandates that you cannot bring your own bag into a grocery store because it may be a vector for dirt and disease. BUT, the environmental regs state that the store can only expensive recyclable bags which you have to pay for. Recyclable? Yes. Reusable in a grocery store? NO!

Or...

The Landfill Drivers' Union starts protests at job losses and the fears for its viability because of the growing Recyclable Waste Drivers' Union.

Think it can't happen? :D
 
Just had a Trader Joe's Paper Bag tear in the garage while unloading my SUV.
It Had some food in it but most important Two Bottles of Kentucky Generic.
Set down the sack, Brought in my camera and other gear.
Got the sack in safely on my second trip!
 
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