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Several inaccuracies in that article, by CNN. The media jumped on the PTSD, right away. It has been established he did not have PTSD and was not being evaluated for PTSD. Sp. Lopez served 4 months in Iraq in 2011 as a truck driver. He was not involved in any combat whatsoever, and was not injured or wounded. He had approximately 14 years service in both the Puerto Rico NG and a Active Army, yet was only an E-4. That right there is a tip off that there was something wrong with this guy. The Army used to have an Up or Out policy, I wonder whatever happened to it.

According to both official reports and new reports, he seemed to be doing OK until last November when his mother suddenly died and he was not given as much leave as he wanted for her funeral. Well guess what, you don't always get leave when you want it, even for a funeral. There are many reasons he was not given the leave, maybe he did not have it accrued, maybe his unit's mission did not allow him taking leave at that particular time. I know of countless times when soldiers were not immediately granted leave to attend a parents funeral. Supposedly he was trying to go on leave again, for family reasons, and had been turned down once, and was applying a second time and had been turned down when he went on the shooting spree. You would think after 14 years in the Army he would have learned about leave.

The big question that the Army isn't answering is besides Ambien, for sleep, what other medications was he on for his mental health problems. Ambien alone is known to sometimes cause people to do strange things. There are some psychotropic drugs commonly used to treat depression and anxiety that are associated with sudden rage, and several of the people involved in other mass shootings were taking these drugs. Is that the case here. If Sp. Lopez was taking those drugs than probably he should temporarily not be allowed to have firearms while on the medication.

The problem with taking firearms away from people with mental problems is that sometimes those problems are temporary, yet with the federal government, it's all or nothing. Once your problem is cured or resolves itself you are still banned from every owning a firearm. Mental disease is like physical disease. Some is temporary and you get over it, and some you don't.
 
I have said before, my Dad was a Combat Photographer in the Pacific. He told me one time, how a solder with a BAR had reached his breaking point and started shooting up his companions Dad said they had to shoot him to stop him. He was a solder in a combat zone and was supposed to have a gun! The fault lies with thoughtless unaccountable politicians putting good people in hopeless, unwinnable situations and expect them to remain whole.
 
This issue we need to continue to look at to find a way to keep weapons out of the hands of people who should not have them."
And, at the same time be sure to protect the rights of people that don't fall into the above category.
 
I agree with several of our members that state that mental health issues are often temporary, after the problem is resolved the person will function normally.The mental health field is still a fairly new science. The brain is one if not the most unknown organ in the body. So when a doctor or other mental health professional conducts and exam of a patient most of his information is come from the patient. The mental health professional bases their diagnosis on what the patient says and behaves. It is an opinion on that information and how it matches with diagnostic criteria. What no one is taking into consideration is that several episodes of those symptoms need to have occurred within a set time frame normally over several years. In many states (Michigan) a person that is adjudicated to be mentally ill. before they will lose the rights to own a firearm. Labeling someone mentally unfit can have a negative impact on their life. This is a slippery slop.
 
It's stress of just being there truck driver or not he worries are from dealing with IUD' s? This war has gone on for too long now. Rome(Washington) is burning while our soldiers are in battle.
 
Check the side effects of Ambien. His taking this medication could have caused this.
 
Several things are wrong here.

First-
We have a 2A forum for 2A matters that actually have substance.
Pending, or even seriously proposed legislation should be discussed there. Every article about a politician with the word 'gun' in it is not worthy of discussion. We'll have so much clutter we won't be able to see anything else.
So, remember that 2A forum.
The guidelines are here- Sticky: READ this > HOW to use the 2A Forum
If your topic fits within those guidelines, post it in the 2A forum.
If not, and it involves politicians, it does not belong on this board. PERIOD.

The entire quote is here:
"Well, there's no question that those with mental health issues should be prevented from owning weapons or being able to purchase weapons. In the so-called 'doc fix' that passed here, there was funding for a pilot project dealing with mental health issues and weapons from both the Senate side and the House side. There are two programs that are being funded in there. The bill went to the president yesterday. This issue we need to continue to look at to find a way to keep weapons out of the hands of people who should not have them."

It was the media that declared 1 of 10 citizens suffer from depression (40 million? When did the population increase? Can a kindergarten student buy a gun?). It could be someone with a mild depression or a serious mental disorder that makes someone open fire on 19 of his fellow soldiers when the media tries to make a headline.

An excellent summation.
The article is drivel. It swings back and forth with the viewpoint making those who don't read closely think Boehner is proposing something he is not, then actually says he is not proposing it in a convoluted way.
Drivel, and not worth the time I spent reading it.

Good Lord, people- get a clue.
The 4473, the NRA, and federal law already say the mentally ill should not have guns, and have for many years said that. :rolleyes:
 
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