Advances in LED tactical light technology

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OK, I admit it - I'm a tactical light junkie. I have several, all of which I've converted to LED bulbs. The LEDs put out at least the same amount of light as the incandescents, but use way less power and last virtually forever. Also, if mounted to use as a weapon light, they are nearly indestructible.

Recently, on the recommendation of an article in the on-line U.S. Concealed Carry Association newsletter, I purchased a 4-Sevens Quark 123-2 tactical light. It promised a lot of light modes, a maximum output of 230 lumens, very compact size, and 1.5 hours of runtime at maximum output. Hard to believe, but the article raved about it.

First, let's look at size. Here's the Quark put side by side with a SureFire 9 volt. Both use Lithium CR123A batteries; the Surefire uses 3, the Quark 2. You can see that the Quark is indeed very compact, suitable for clipping in a shirt pocket or in a hip or side pocket.

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Next, let's compare output. The Surefire is rated, I believe, at around 80 lumens. The Quark puts out an amazing 230 lumens. I had to see it to believe it. This photo is probably not really illustrative, because to the camera, white is white, and it's hard to discern intensity. All the same, you can see that the Quark's peripheral output overlaps and way outshines that of the Surefire. The Quark is set on maximum output.

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The Quark can be set for any two of the following outputs:

Moonlight (0.2 lumens) - 30 days runtime
Low (4 lumens) - 5 days runtime
Medium (22 lumens) - 20 hours runtime
High (85 lumens) - 4.5 hours runtime
Strobe (230 lumens pulsing rapidly) - 3 hours runtime
Maximum (230 lumens) - 1.5 hours runtime
Beacon (SOS Morse code signal - 85 lumens) - 23 hours runtime

The two modes selected can be alternated by twisting the front cap either tight or relieved somewhat. I selected max and strobe for mine. Momentary activation is by pressing the tailcap switch lightly; constant on is by pressing the tailcap switch all the way down until it clicks; do it again to turn it off.

The light comes with a package which includes instructions, a lanyard, pocket clip, and belt carrying pouch. Batteries included.

My only complaint, and not a huge one, is that the procedure for selecting your two preferred modes is a bit complex - read the instructions carefully in order to accomplish it. The flashlight is definitely quality made, with square-profile threads for the caps. The light output should be able to easily momentarily blind anyone who gets it in the face, and the strobe mode would be really disorienting.

LED technology has really advanced in the last several years; thought I'd show you what is apparently state-of-the-art in LED tactical flashlights. You can get further information on this one at:

4Sevens - 4Sevens.Com.

This outfit has been very responsive with e-mail updates on order status, and apologetic about a recent manufacturing backlog. They have been swamped with orders since the USCCA article came out. The Quark 123-2 is priced at $69 plus shipping, which I think is quite reasonable and competitive. It has a 120-month repair or replace guarantee from the date of purchase, under normal use and service.

John
 
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john...i'm kind of a flashlight guy as well...in my case however i'm simply overun with maglites and even some old kel-lites....not very high tech.LOL
 
Burn time on 230 lumen setting seems too brief. Those CR-123 batteries aren't cheap, either.

I have an Inova XO that puts out a 150 foot beam. It lasts about 5 hrs., I think. They no longer make it, but a model that gets out 250 feet is still offered. But burn time is halved.


T-Star
 
I have a Surefire 6P and I bought a R2 LED from DealsExtreme for about 12 bucks, it made a gigantic improvement in brightness and run time and the CR123 batteries from DX are only about 80 cents a piece. I don't like the multi-mode lights, all I want is "on and off", and I think the strobe feature is highly overated as a defensive weapon.
 
LED's are a fantastic technology no doubt.... But if you want overkill? High Intensity Discharge is where it's at! :)

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Now that is bright! 3000 Lumens :)
 
Very cool...I am a flashaholic too, but I haven't make the jump to LEDs in my tac lights yet (SL20X, Scorpion and Strion)...I would go for 230 and 4...the low setting comes in handy for restaurant menus....:)
 
I've had a 69 for 14 years now, and have been curious about the LED version for a couple of years now. Last week we got our REI dividend and, as it turns out, REI carries Surefire 6P LEDs.

In my initial home and dog-walking tests I have found that the LED light is much brighter, whiter and clearer at defense distance. The LED doesn't though out a concentrated beam quite as far as the incandescent does, but it's only noticeable at 100' or so.

In short, I'm sold on the LED and am going to upgrade the lamp in the old 6P as soon as I can.
 
Do you have a user report for us? Looks like what I'm after....if it works.....


If I get it before I retire, sure.....


The pre-order was in October and he's still 2-4 weeks from shipping, seems making things by hand takes a while :)
 
Folks, I've been using Surefires for years... But I just had to pick up a light I had seen at Lowes for a T&E. The light is a "Coast/LED Lenser" Model T-7 Tactical light. So far, I've been very impressed with it at every task. It has a one-handed adjust from spot to flood. (Spot is good for distance, while flood is good for room clearing. A spotlight in a room clearing situation requires that you move the light more often in order to see all of the room. This can cause what I call "movement of shadow". Moving shadows can trick your eyes into saying what you saw was nothing more than a shadow, when in fact it could have been a bad guy. A flooding light lets you scan a bigger area (with your eyes) without moving the flashlight, thus what you are looking at is a view with no light movement. This lets you better discern inanimate objects from the animate ones. Then you put the bullet on the target!) The light gives 200 Lumens from the LED. Uses 4 AAA batteries in a cartridge with gold contacts. Advertised battery life is 78 hours (though I've not yet tested that claim.) All machined aluminum construction, including the switch button on the tailcap. Single button "OFF-MOMENTARY-HIGH-LOW" capability. Waterproof to 3 feet. Cost was about $70.

I paid more than $70 for my Surefire Z2 (with a standard bulb giving only 1/3 of the light of the T-7). The Surefire G2 was about $30 at the PX. The Surefire Model 500A handguard on my M-4 is a whole other story. None have HIGH/LOW capability or adjustable SPOT/FLOOD capability. But the features on this new light have caused me to move the Z-2 and G-2 lights to my EDC bag. The T-7 is now my tactical carry light. The High-to-Low feature of the T-7 can extent battery life in emergency situations... The waterproof switch will keep me lighted in all but the worst situations (I'm not a diver and would probably never face anything worse than an extreme blowing rain or a fall into a shallow creek.) Battery cost is laughable compared to the 123 lithium cells.

I am always looking for a good value that I can test. So far this one has proven outstanding. I have no issues with recommending this light to anyone here at the forum or to any of my students. Even without the HIGH/LOW and SPOT/FLOOD abilities, the 200 lumens would be worth the $70 cost...

Regards,
Mike
 
REI carries Surefire 6P LEDs...is this a good light? I have my REI rebate and if this is a good one...I'll buy it?
 
Love that old surefire, those are great lights. I use the two cell model, 6Z or something like that as an offhand light for use with my pistols, the grip ring makes all the difference for a good hold. I put led upgrades in each and they are still going strong.

Just this morning I began researching which light to get for my brother in-law who is a heavy equipment mechanic that works in the field off of his service truck. His current light is apparently pretty weak and he has been getting no small amount of grief over it by his co-workers, and we can't have that. He is looking for something robust and practical but also has the ability to lay the smackdown (brightness) on his co-workers lights after the shift is over and they are downing some beers and comparing flashlights. :)

Been looking at the quark vs the fenix pd30 R4 but I'm a little concerned with some of the poor reviews the quark is getting on cpf lately. The other thing is this light really should be one that is made in the U.S., as these service mechanics don't dare show up on job sites with tools that are made overseas. Is the fenix and quark made in the U.S.?
 
REI carries Surefire 6P LEDs...is this a good light? I have my REI rebate and if this is a good one...I'll buy it?
In my opinion it is, the 6P has been around awhile and I suspect it is one of surefires all time best sellers. A proven, practical design.

I'm also a big fan of the surefire G2 for a good value all-around light. I have a half dozen of them spread around the place and the only thing I don't like is the momentary switch. I much prefer the clicky switch for a general use light.
 
The other thing is this light really should be one that is made in the U.S., as these service mechanics don't dare show up on job sites with tools that are made overseas. Is the fenix and quark made in the U.S.?

According to the verbage inscribed on the Quark package, "Designed by 4Sevens in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. Assembled in China with components from USA, China and Malasia."

Dunno about the Fenix.
 
According to the verbage inscribed on the Quark package, "Designed by 4Sevens in Atlanta, Georgia, USA. Assembled in China with components from USA, China and Malasia."
Dunno about the Fenix.
Thanks. After looking into the Quark a little closer there are a few things that I really like in addition to the reasonable price. One of my gripes with these new lights is the overly complex UI's on some of them. If I understand the quark tactical model correctly, you can set it up so only two levels are accessible as a matter of routine use. For example you can have low and high, and then all the other level's/modes are kept out of the way but accessible with some more head twisting or button pushing if needed. I think that light also memorizes your most used level and puts that one at the front of the sequence. I'm kind of liking the looks of the 2x 123 model.

I get that these are 'tactical' models but any light I carry is going to get used for every task that comes up, and thankfully I've yet to encounter a true 'tactical' situation.

Few things are more frustrating then having to cycle through all kinds of levels you don't want just to get to the ones that you use the most. I have an older Fenix model which like all Fenix products is a high quality light, but it has all kinds of modes/levels. I find myself accidentally giving the S.O.S signal to the whole neighborhood when all I really wanted to do is use the low setting to take the garbage can down to the end of the road for pickup.
 
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