All firearm manufacturers could learn from Remington. Heck.... EVERYONE....

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Could learn from their example.

Ford? Hey, you wouldn't happen to have a slew of diesel trucks that choke on a ham sandwich and die at the drop of a hat, would you?

GM? Keys kill buddy.... car keys can kill if they are in a crappy ignition. And; you STILL owe us for the Chevy Vega, all these years later.

S&W.......... any M&P's that might need some massaging; maybe toughen up the extractor assembly on the 15-22, and surely it's no mistake that I have worked on more M&P10's than I have just shot with no complications.

But; Remington- I am not letting you completely off the hook. Test your final product, and make sure it meets the standards YOU set for it. Don't wait for consumers to get all uppity and bent before you realize there is an issue.

Props to Remington; here is the story:BREAKING: Remington Announces They Will Replace R51 Pistols With New Production Models
 
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I love the press release-"Released to critical aclaim" yet it didn't work:D.
Anyway they're doing the rigt thing and I hope for them the new pistol WORKS. What intrigues me though is that they're giving away a Pelican Case with the new gun. I've never known Pelican to make anything other than a GREAT case for anything.!
 
I don't care about Remington and their R51 pistol. Until I saw a thread a week or so ago about "they've scrubbed all mention of it from their website", I'd never even heard of it. So whether they fix it or don't fix it or recall it or replace it - is of no interest to me whatsoever.

This, however, intrigues me.

>GM? Keys kill buddy.... car keys can kill if they are in a crappy ignition.<

What? Is that something everyone knows about (like Pintos exploding), except me?
 
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I don't care about Remington and their R51 pistol. Until I saw a thread a week or so ago about "they've scrubbed all mention of it from their website", I'd never even heard of it. So whether they fix it or don't fix it or recall it or replace it - is of no interest to me whatsoever.

This, however, intrigues me.

>GM? Keys kill buddy.... car keys can kill if they are in a crappy ignition.<

What? Is that something everyone knows about (like Pintos exploding), except me?
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I think GM is recalling every one of it's cars that has an ignition switch.:D

Hey, my Wife had a Green Pinto when we first met. It never blew up. That car is the only one that would start in Northern Mn. It finally turned to a pile of rust on the side of the road. I believe it is a Historical Marker now.;)
 
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I am a GM guy, however their corporate history of 'ignore the defect and maybe it will magically go away' is getting old!

My 1993 Pontiac Grand Prix had the defective rear disc brake design which relied on a lever/screw through the caliper to activate the parking brake. Same assembly also kept the pads close to the rotor. Problem is, the single blessed o ring used to seal the screw was subjected to the full fluid pressure on brake application and would fail every few thousand miles if you used the parking brake. GM used this design from 1987 to mid 1994!
They waited until 2000 to issue a recall which would pay for ONE brake repair done before the vehicle reached 100,000 miles.
Mine had 113,000. I had replaced the rear calipers a dozen times! But, at least my rear brakes worked.
 
Why in the world Remington didn't re-introduce an updated version of the original Model 51 is beyond me.
I've owned several of these over the years and they are 100% reliable.
The only real issue with the original design is difficulty in disassembly even for routine maintenance.
A work around to make maintenence easier plus modern sights and they IMO would have a winner.
Jim

 
When I first saw the Remington Model 51 I really wanted to get my hands on one. Nice looking pistol! However, as the reviews came out - not so much.:(

Hopefully they will go back to the drawing board and come back with one designed and manufactured correctly!!:)

Then I would buy one. I believe this "thing" was built to a price point...........bad way to build things!!:eek:
 
NO REM LOVE FROM ME!

Did they learn a lesson after the mdl 700 trigger safety fiasco? A company that ONCE made great guns like the mdl 700's/760/ 1100's/1187's/ 40X's/ xp-100's etc. & now cuts every corner, uses inferior/cheaper materials & mfgr techniques, pinches each penny til ol Abe craps his britches and runs about every other mfgr they gobbled up (remlin) into the ground, gets no sympathy from me.
 
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In WWII the US Navy installed four 20mm cannon in their Vaught F4U Corsairs (Fighter plane: Bent Wing Bird. Whispering Death), replacing the six M-2 .50 cal. machine guns. They decided not to test these new guns at high altitudes. If they had, they would have found that they freeze up and will not fire. Our Navy and Marine pilots discovered this flaw over Okinawa during the Kamikaze attacks. Imagine having a Kamikaze in you sights and your 20mm cannons are frozen.
 
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Rule3 said:
I think GM is recalling every one of it's cars that has an ignition switch.:D

Hey, my Wife had a Green Pinto when we first met. It never blew up. That car is the only one that would start in Northern Mn. It finally turned to a pile of rust on the side of the road. I believe it is a Historical Marker now.;)
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You didn't have any problems with broken timing belts? :eek:
 
Will Carry said:
In WWII the US Navy installed four 20mm cannon in their Vaught F4U Corsairs (Fighter plane: Bent Wing Bird. Whispering Death), replacing the six M-2 .50 cal. machine guns. They decided not to test these new guns at high altitudes. If they had, they would have found that they freeze up and will not fire. Our Navy and Marine pilots discovered this flaw over Okinawa during the Kamikaze attacks. Imagine having a Kamikaze in you sights and your 20mm cannons are frozen.
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Bah; just RAM him. Turnabout is fair play....!!!!:D
 
I am still waiting for my refund from Remington. I didn't want my R51 back. They promised to refund the full purchase price but have yet to receive a check. I give major props to Remington for doing this, but I have already bought a Shield. And I am quite happy with the Shield.
 
The lesson for buyers is to be late adopters, rather than early adopters. Let the latter deal with bugs, design defects, and manufacturing defects. I would rather have something that is "tried and true".
 
What??

But what about that awesome "the rock" video extolling that this is the best handgun since sliced bread, you tell me that was all what? Marketing? I BEG TO DIFFER!!!!

;)
 
I sure love my old M600 in 308 and the other one in 243. two of the best little deer rifles I have ever had. The 308 does kick a mite like a mule but if there is a deer in the sights you don't notice it.
 
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