Almost empty shelves at Wal-Mart

[44forever]

I went to Wall World on Saturday to pick up some bulk .22's for a class I'm teaching next weekend. They had no NO bulk pack .22's or bulk pack pistol ammo. I saw no more than 100 rounds of any pistol caliber on the shel. Same for centerfire rifle ammo. Seemed to have plenty of shotgun shells though.

I have been reading the various threads about this but this is the first time I've seen it first hand locally. The ammo shelves were virtually empty.

I hope they get restocked soon so I can hoard some more!!

 

[44forever]

I went to Wall World on Saturday to pick up some bulk .22's for a class I'm teaching next weekend. They had no NO bulk pack .22's or bulk pack pistol ammo. I saw no more than 100 rounds of any pistol caliber on the shel. Same for centerfire rifle ammo. Seemed to have plenty of shotgun shells though.

I have been reading the various threads about this but this is the first time I've seen it first hand locally. The ammo shelves were virtually empty.

I hope they get restocked soon so I can hoard some more!!

 

[Erich]

I noticed the same thing last week here in ABQ on Academy. (I was in sporting goods looking for a duffel bag and just checked out the ammo to see if there were any special sales - sometimes I get lucky that way.

) I'd stocked up when the Ds took Congress two years ago so I'm cool, but I was surprised to see how there's apparently been a bit of a buying frenzy out there.

 

[tbury]

All the Hornady ammo at MidwayUSA is backordered. I think this means after inventory for taxes the price of ammo will go up upon restocking. My guess.

 

[bigt5150]

Hopefully and maybe.....just maybe the current lack of ammo means the ammo makers have already finished their raw material stock of lead, brass, and copper that they bought at record highs and are now making ammo with the new stock bought far cheaper thus maybe making future ammo cheaper. I know this a long shot but it could seem plausible.

 

[Firehouse]

Originally posted by bigt5150:
Hopefully and maybe.....just maybe the current lack of ammo means the ammo makers have already finished their raw material stock of lead, brass, and copper that they bought at record highs and are now making ammo with the new stock bought far cheaper thus maybe making future ammo cheaper. I know this a long shot but it could seem plausible.

Your theory works with fuel. You may be onto something....hopefully.

 

[Class III]

I gave up on Wally World, Dicks, Bass Pro, Gander Mountain, etc. I went to a gun show last weekend and they must have thought their ammo was solid gold. One of my brothers told me where he has been buying some of his ammo, ammo4guns dot com. I picked up 2 cases Fed XM193 5.56 x 45 at $250 per case and 2 cases Winchester white box 9mm at $120 per case. Saved over $400 from what they wanted at the gun show. Ahh, internet purchases. Save that 9.25% TN Sales Tax and $.10 per carton ammo tax, but still have to pay shipping. Still come out a few $ ahead.

 

[44forever]

The Wal-Mart in Santa Fe had plenty of bulk pack .22s but they didn't have the bulk pack centerfire pistol ammo either.

 

[Bruce51]

The Turner's outdoorsman I frequent has plenty of centerfire ammo. There never seems to be enough bulk pack .22's. There seems to be plenty of ammo at the Wal Marts as well. No ammo shortage here in Ca. Bruce

 

[617fan]

My local Wally World put some new .38 Special 130Grn FMJ Winchester on the shelve today priced at $31.97 for a 100 rd box. They also had a good stock of Remington 50 Round 130 FMJ's at $16.57

Only other loading available in either .357 or 38 was 2 100rd boxes of .357 Remington 125jhp priced at $46.97

The Winchester side of the shelf was empty yesterday, so it it appears they haven't jacked the price any further on the new stuff....yet

 

[animalmother]

All this makes me glad that I started really stocking up in 2005 and into 2008. Although no one really has enough ammo, I have enough to last me a long, long time. I hope ammo prices get under control at some point.

22 LR

Federal Match (11 x 325) 3575
Federal Bulk (2 x 550) 1100
Eley Target (12 x 50) 0600
CCI Green Tag (5 x 100) 0500
CCI Standard (1 x 100) 0100

Total: 5875

380 ACP

PMC (35 x 50) 1750
American Eagle (15 x 50) 0750
Buffalo Bore (3 x 20) 0060
Corbon Powerball (2 x 20) 0040
Magtech Guard Gold (1 x 20) 0020

Total: 2620

9mm

Remington UMC (22 x 50) 1100
PMC (20 x 50) 1000
Win USA (7 x 100) 0700
Win Winclean (10 x 50) 0500
CCI Blazer (10 x 50) 0500
Corbon (4 x 50) 0200
Federal Nyclad (1 x 50) 0050

Total: 4050

38 Special

Remington UMC (90 x 50) 4500
CCI Blazer (36 x 50) 1800
CCI Lawman (16 x 50) 0800
Rem UMC Leadless (12 x 50) 0600
Magtech Guard Gold (1 x 20) 0020

Total: 7720



357 Magnum

American Eagle (4 x 50) 0200
Remington (4 x 50) 0200
J&J (3 x 50) 0150
GA Arms (2 x 50) 0100
Federal 125gr (1 x 50) 0050
Remington 110gr (1 x 50) 0050
Win MP (1 x 50) 0050

Total: 800

40 S&W

CCI Blazer Brass (27 x 50) 1350
Win USA (5 x 100) 0500
Hornady XTP (2 x 20) 0040
Magtech Guard Gold (1 x 20) 0020

Total: 1910

10mm Auto

CCI Blazer (9 x 50) 0450
Win STHP (3 x 20) 0060
Corbon (1 x 50) 0050
Glazer (1 x 6) 0006

Total: 1266

45 ACP

CCI Blazer (74 x 50) 3700
American Eagle (20 x 50) 1000
CCI Blazer Brass (19 x 50) 0950
Taurus HEX (20 x 20) 0400
Federal Hydra-Shok (5 x 20) 0100

Total: 6150

44 Mag 100

223 (Remington UMC) 400

308 (Remington UMC) 500

 

[HOUSTON RICK]

All of my ammo dealers have been restocked, but they still want a king's ransom to buy the stuff though.

 

[Denver Dick]

Prices for ammo may go down.

Let's see, I'm 57 and have been buying ammo since I was 13 (for a .303 Jungle Carbine, my first rifle). I've never seen ammo go down significantly in all that time, only up. But hey, maybe I'll be surprised? However, I ain't holding my breath waiting to see it because I don't look good in blue.

 

[TN RAT]

You have got to be joking if you think anything gun related will be going down in this political climate.

 

[Spotteddog]

Wally World - north of Seattle 1-17-09'.
ZERO W W/B in 9X19, .40, .45ACP.
.223 only in boxes of twenty (commercial varmint)
More twelve gauge than you can shake a stick at. Wide array of W/W 25 counts. Buck (OOO, OO, #4) only a few 5 packs of each. No answer as to next handgun ammo delivery.

 

[Win712]

I bought the last 2 Federal 550 round bulk pack .22's yesterday at our local WalMart. They sill had a Remington Bulk of 525 Golden Bullet and a few single boxes of 50 rounds. Greg

 

[J.M]

Stopped by my local Wallyworld today, the shelves were pretty bare. Guy that runs the dept told me that he is having a hard time getting any ammo, most of it is out of stock or backordered at the ditribution warehouse. He has no idea when they will be restocking since they usually do not find the warehouse out of stock.

 

[ezb57]

I was at our local WM yesterday and the ammo situation was dire. The only thing on the shelves was some .22-250 rifle ammo, and a few boxes of 20 gauge shells. When they have it, Remington 9mm 115 gr FMJ is still $10.97 for 50. I cant beat that anywhere.

 

[Nicksterdemus]

this political climate

Is nothing but fear induced rhetoric brought about by the whiplash of NRA gloom n doom prophets in regards to their predictions of consequences if their guy wasn't elected.

Thanks to them, gun rags, suppliers, manufacturers and well over half of the twenty-five percentile of gun owners in America the prophecy would seem to have been fulfilled, for the short term.

In all this flag waving show of patriotism, buying evah sidearm n stick of ammo available, I've noticed most everyone more than willing to make as much profit as possible off of hearsay.

Well boys, you can only run on a flat tire for so long. All you have to do is slow down to right at a standstill for a couple of months. You've managed to help prop up the feeding frenzy for that long. Put the shoe on the other foot. Ammunition isn't perishable, but if folks will back off, allow inventories to return to normal and maybe start gathering a little dust then you might send a positive message to the industry.

If costs for raw material and energy are down then we can lay the blame of high prices on greed, wishing to manipulate us as puppets, and our own foolishness for allowing ourselves to be tools. Be the master of your own destiny or density, it is your choice.

For crying out loud the economy is in the terlit. The prices should be low encouraging you to buy. As long as we sop 'em up like sausage gravy it ain't gonna happen.
We are our own worst enemy.

 

[Spotteddog]

I don't disagree with a single word above...
The pricing at the largest suppliers would be up astronomically if there weren't still some sanity and a vestige of "market pricing" at the wholesale and distributor level. Didn't one of the larger ammo makers announce a significant layoff a few days ago? Does that sound like they think they're rolling in dough and orders enough to keep them running into 3rd quarter 09'? The smaller outlets are caught in the middle now. Don't raise prices, and you lower your profits on a limited supply. The big buyers (Wally etc.) aren't bending you over because they don't have to. They make their nut on volume. The last purchase I made on W W/B was $20ish a hundred for 9X19. High, but understanable coming off of $5 a gallon Diesel (ammo's heavy). So Nick's absolutely correct. Pull the throttle back on purchasing for 30-60 days and see what happens?
JOMO?

 

[czakjm]

There is one positive aspect as far as "Wallyworld" is concerned...now you don't have any excuse to shop there ! Rejoice...Jack

 

[HD Rider]

Our Wally World in Central Fl is out as well... just some 22 and shotgun...But Gander Mountain has all you need.

 

[bogman]

My friend in Tn. said his Walmart said that they were not going to restock ammo. the Walmart by me is almost totally out of any ammo except shotgun shells

 

[TN RAT]

You can talk about us vs. them all day long, lay blame whereever you so desire, and talk about how we need to slow down. None of it is happening like we would love for it to happen.

...just like the National Parks thing. People keep saying it's not really that bad.

I bought $140.00 worth of ammo today from two different stores simply b/c they had it on the shelves, it was marked up as old pricing, and one of those was Wally World.

You do what you feel you need to do. That is what we are doing.

 

[rbstern]

My Walmart is extremely low on 22LR and most centerfire. Completely out of the common handgun calibers last time I was there, except for a few boxes of CCI Blazer 9mm.

Take this with a grain of salt: On another forum I frequent, one of the members reputes to be a Walmart sporting goods department manager. He claims that they have been told that the ammo makers are trying to push through a big price increase, and Walmart is balking at restocking at the new prices. The result is a staredown between the manufacturers and Walmart's buyers.

Don't know if it's true. I would think a manufacturer would be nuts to get into a pissing contest with Walmart.

 

[jack76590]

I think there may be another buying window soon. Raw material costs are down and people are losing their jobs. Plus while I know obama and crew are anti guns they have bigger fish to fry, FOR NOW.

I am pretty well stocked. I only took the end of the AWB in 2004 as a buying window and concentrated on guns and mags made available that had been banned under the AWB. When the 2006 election put in a lot of democrats in Congress I concentrated on ammo.

Now I am thinking about buying reloading components, esp cast bullets made by quality independent makers. They can still be had at a decent price.

I wonder if a lot of the people crying about all the panic buying and how it is making them pay more will start to buy ammo, even if the prices go down. They did not stock up when they had the opportunity in the past.

 

[tripledipper]

At 5 local Walmarts in S/E Va. (Hampton Roads area) shelves are just about bare. Nothing available on .38,.357, .380, 9mm. Small amount of.22lr, no bulk. Its gun shop heaven.

 

[Firehouse]

Just stopped by my local Wal-Marts, and they are beginning to slowly build stock back up. The other day capped off one of several attempts to obtain some of the 550 round value pack Federal .22LR ammo to play with. Finally tonight I went in and they had 6 boxes so I picked up 2. I even left some for the next guy.

 

[bgs210]

More boxes on the shelves here...

40S&W and 9mm UMC (250 rounds)
550 Federal and Remington .22LR
325 Federal Target .22LR
.38, .357 and .380 9mm 50 rounds in Winchester, Blazer or Remington

a little something for most everyone. But a few with extra cash to spend would turn the inventory around.

 

[Andy Griffith]

I remember my father telling me about the hardship about getting ammunition even in the mid-1930's...

Even if you had the money, ammunition was very hard to obtain in certain areas.

I can still remember some old timers buying shotgun shells by the shell- I think that practice started during the depression.

16 gauge was by far, so I am told, the hardest to come by for any price. When WW2 arrived, all ammunition was non-existent for the hunter. However, if you knew someone locally on the Draft board, Law Enforcement, or happen to know your local federal Senator personally, obtaining ammunition became much easier.

Anyway, I said this to say, that if you look down through history- when economies/cultures have hard economic times, people tend to be more defensive. This fact seems to know no limits to cultures, continents or times- just a fact of life.

Whether it is right or wrong...I don't know.

Anyway, tell me a reason not to buy ammunition if you have the money to do so without hurting your livelihood or lifestyle? If you don't have the money to buy the ammunition, don't worry- spend it on the ammo anyway...the bailout is on it way.