Am I crazy?

[tejano]

Now that S&W has discontinued, or is about to discontinue the 30 super carry, I am finally interested. The EZ Shield can be had for less than $300 NIB, and right now FMJ practice ammo is cheaper than it may have ever been. I have always been a 32acp, 32 Long, 32 Mag afficionado. Am I nuts?

 

[TJm15.38]

The .30 Super Carry was a dying caliber shortly after it's introduction. The semi-auto king caliber has been and always will be the 9x19 (9 Luger, 9mm Parabelum) which offers superior performance in a small package. I wouldn't bother buying a pistol in the .30 super carry. Besides, I already have .30 cal pistols like the Polish TTC in 7.62x25.

 

[Beju]

I wouldn't unless you're a handloader and prepared to load up on brass.

 

[Bullet Bob]

"Am I nuts?"

Have your parents had you tested, Sheldon?

 

[CH4]

It was DOA

 

[tejano]

"Am I nuts?"

Have your parents had you tested, Sheldon?

Too late. I am 74 and have been handloading for more than 40 years.

 

[Oldsalt66]

Well that cartridge certainly didn't last long.

Let's see how .21 Sharp does.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

It was DOA

xxxxx2......................

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Well that cartridge certainly didn't last long.

Let's see how .21 Sharp does.

It's gonna die soon too...............

 

[tejano]

Guys, thanks for all the input. It is clear that I am a crazy, old man. I just ordered a Shield Plus and a bunch of ammo. I already shoot and reload for a dozen or so pistol calibers and almost as many rifle calibers. Adding more caliber is just another way of entertaining myself in my so-called "golden years."

 

[RH45]

Now that S&W has discontinued, or is about to discontinue the 30 super carry, I am finally interested. The EZ Shield can be had for less than $300 NIB, and right now FMJ practice ammo is cheaper than it may have ever been. I have always been a 32acp, 32 Long, 32 Mag afficionado. Am I nuts?

I somehow got a box of 30 Super Carry ammo mixed in, when I bought a bunch of 9mm.
I put up a “wanted to trade” post, in Wisconsin, but I haven’t had any luck

 

[Jim0001]

It was DOA

Like Winchester's .21 rimfire?

 

[tejano]

Like Winchester's .21 rimfire?

 

[BE Mike]

Kinda like the .45 GAP. Like Jeff Cooper used to say, "It's a solution to a problem that didn't exist!"

 

[Just another 22 shooter]

tajano...
sounds like you already have the bullets, primers and powder from loading for the other 32s.
I'm sure you will enjoy the 30 sc .

 

[Yendor 1]

To answer the original question,
Yes.

 

[seldon14]

Nah, not crazy.

Its a rad caliber, and ammo is as cheap as any non 9mm centerfire. It will probably continue to exist like 327 fed does. A few good defensive loads on the market, and a few FMJ loads the get one production run a year.

 

[PaulM&P]

Now that S&W has discontinued, or is about to discontinue the 30 super carry, I am finally interested. The EZ Shield can be had for less than $300 NIB, and right now FMJ practice ammo is cheaper than it may have ever been. I have always been a 32acp, 32 Long, 32 Mag afficionado. Am I nuts?

Sounds like it's going the way of the 45 GAP

 

[glenwolde]

Sounds like it's going the way of the 45 GAP

The. 30 SC can only dream of being as popular as the. 45 GAP.

 

[PaulM&P]

The. 30 SC can only dream of being as popular as the. 45 GAP.

I thought the GAP was a good concept but the .30 SC defies me

 

[RebCop]

Whatever floats your boat. I'll bet .32 Mag dies would work for reloading. Basically this is just a .32 H&R Mag in an auto. I reloaded some 7.65x20 French for one of their surplus pistols that I had and it did fine. I don't believe it's under powered at all.

 

[rwsmith]

Guys, thanks for all the input. It is clear that I am a crazy, old man. I just ordered a Shield Plus and a bunch of ammo. I already shoot and reload for a dozen or so pistol calibers and almost as many rifle calibers. Adding more caliber is just another way of entertaining myself in my so-called "golden years."

You'd be crazy if you didn't. I shoot a LOT of 9mm because it's an extremely useful round, comfortable to shoot well, and ammo is as common as dirt. But I reload 9mm with 125 gr. Missouri coated bullets just to stay free from ammo shortages. I also have a couple 9mm Shields, a Sig and 2 third gen S&Ws. Oh, and 2 9mm carbines.

 

[Jim0001]

Nah, not crazy.

Its a rad caliber, and ammo is as cheap as any non 9mm centerfire. It will probably continue to exist like 327 fed does. A few good defensive loads on the market, and a few FMJ loads the get one production run a year.

The .327 Federal Magnums ammo costs are in line with the .357 Magnum ammo prices, and it approaches slightly less power levels. Plus, You can carry 6 rounds in a "J" framed sized revolver. I wish my .41 Magnum ammo prices could be more competitive with the .44 Magnum. I like the less recoil factor while enjoying similar downrange performance on both these calibers.

 

[RebCop]

The .327 Federal Magnums ammo costs are in line with the .357 Magnum ammo prices, and it approaches slightly less power levels. Plus, You can carry 5 rounds in a "J" framed sized revolver. I wish my .41 Magnum ammo prices could be more competitive with the .44 Magnum. I like the less recoil factor while enjoying similar downrange performance on both these calibers.

The .327 has 6 in the J frame.

 

[STORMINORMAN]

The 38 Super was the caliber I didn't really NEED to add to my reloading addiction...

But I did, and I absolutely LOVE it!

Cheers!

P.S. Perhaps a CSX in 30 Super Carry might have floated some more boats, but I just never understood the attraction nor was impressed with the supposed increase in firepower over modern 380 acp...?

 

[Jim0001]

The .327 has 6 in the J frame.

Sorry, my typo. I have three (3" & 4"' stainless and a 3" blued) of them and know better.

 

[ChoochGambino]

Now that S&W has discontinued, or is about to discontinue the 30 super carry, I am finally interested. The EZ Shield can be had for less than $300 NIB, and right now FMJ practice ammo is cheaper than it may have ever been. I have always been a 32acp, 32 Long, 32 Mag afficionado. Am I nuts?

I had it, and liked it, but the availability of ammo was a downer. If you can get enough cheap ammo, I'd say it's pretty fun for a dying cartridge.

 

[Beju]

The 38 Super was the caliber I didn't really NEED to add to my reloading addiction...

But I did, and I absolutely LOVE it!

Cheers!

P.S. Perhaps a CSX in 30 Super Carry might have floated some more boats, but I just never understood the attraction nor was impressed with the supposed increase in firepower over modern 380 acp...?

30 Super Carry was supposed to offer 9mm (or close to it) terminal ballistics with an extra couple rounds in the magazine and (maybe) a little less recoil. Think of it like a semi auto version of .327 Federal Magnum vs .357 Magnum.

However, this pressure/performance also necessitated using 9mm pistol designs, just like how .327 Federal required revolver frames that were capable of taking .357 Magnum.

Even 'modern' 380 JHP is typically like .38 Special from short barrels; expansion and 12"+ of penetration tend to be either/or propositions, especially through heavy clothing. .30 Super Carry was supposed to offer better, more consistent performance than 380. That being said, Federal's Hydra Shok Deep 380 is looking pretty good in gel tests.

I and others have posited that .30 Super Carry might have been more successful as a modernized .32 ACP without semi-rimmed cases and having higher pressure, but not so high that it couldn't be adapted to .380 pistol designs. However, it may have been doomed anyways by launching during an ammo panic. That's not necessarily Federal's fault, as it was planned and worked on years in advance.

 

[chief38]

Most new calibers in what I'd classify as "in-between calibers" usually fail or become really unpopular, very expensive and hard to get. I usually say, "stay away"! I would also (for the most part) say the ammo company's and firearms manufacturer do this for only one reason - A MONEY GRAB!

Buying a firearm in one of these odd-ball calibers would require hand loading or going forward a large bank account to acquire ammo. My opinion would be to stay with long time proven popular calibers like the .22LR 9mm, .38 spl, .45 acp. Secondary calibers that are somewhat popular and still readily available are .380 acp, .40 S&W, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum. Calibers I'd shy away from are .41 Magnum, 357 Sig, .30 carry, .25 acp, .32 acp & 10mm. Any really exotic calibers such as .357 Maximum, 30 Luger, etc are basically now for collectors only.

I used to LMAO when one of my Pheasant Hunting Bud's would have to replenish his 16 gauge shot shell stash. Most big box stores do not even carry it anymore and the smaller LGS's that do, charge an arm and a leg and only ave limited choices in shot size and brass heights.

 

[tejano]

The pistol will arrive at my FFL later this week and the ammo is supposed to arrive tomorrow. And yes, I will reload for it just like I do for many others. Thanks for the comments and the humor. Will post an update after its first trip to the range.