Am I expecting too much?

[Biggfoot44]

At risk of redundency , how large is Not Good ? What size groups does the OP get with his other .22lr's ?

If we are talking 1.5in , we can discuss rechecking scope mounting , and then testing a wide variety of ammo.

If we are talking 4.0in , then have someone experienced in testing .22lr rifles try. If problem persists , then look for major bbl related problems.

 

[GhostMutt]

Are you asking too much?....from a 22lr at 100 yards...inch group. Do able? Yes......repeatable everytime....probably not. Lots of things to change in between each shot...but i would say accurate shots are achievable.
After you have checked the ammo, which was my No.1 reason for fliers and errant shots, checked the barrel nut for looseness and eliminated shooter error, then you have to look at the optics...are they budget or decent ones that should hold zero? do you have it mounted on only the upper or have it mounted on the handguard? if so slight flex on the handguard could change POI, is your cheek weld consistent?, you have no parallax issues? There are lots of things that are simply shooter error (i am in no way insinuating that you are guilty of this, just pointing out the things that i have experienced) However i think that a properly maintained 15-22, with a consistent hold and stance and the right choice of ammo, that this rifle is capable of more than what i expected from it.

After i changed ammo:- 25 yards
10 shots....offhand.


I rested my AFG on an upturned mag, with the grip resting on the bench, the stock well positioned into my shoulder pocket..got a great line of sight....breathed properly and executed each trigger pull as best i could, really took my time and concentrated and fired off 10 shots.


The results speak for themselves. but mine is one of the super accurate UK ones

 

[TheMaineEvent]

I'd have no issue using my 15-22 out to 50 ft for squirrel sized animals. Any further then that and it may or may not hit, but that's enough for me to go with another rifle. My Ruger American 22LR can hit a zit on the butt of a tick out to 50 yards.

 

[tacticool22]

The 15-22 will out shoot most shooters.
A cheap scope will give you nothing but fits since the reticle will move around. Cheap mounts will drive you crazy too.
I can hit 12 gauge shotgun husks all day long at 50 yards with CCI HV ammo.
Other factors can be if you are using a sling to clamp everything nice and tight when you are hunting. The plastic hand guard flexes and touches the barrel. Remove the plastic hand guard end cap and see if that makes a difference between bench and field.
If you can't shoot less than 1 BOS (Body of Squirrel) there is something terribly wrong with the rifle.

 

[Pinoc]

The scope I am using is a Bushnell Trophy 3x9x40 and it is mounted on the receiver only. I am not sure what brand of mounts but they are tight. The ammo I was using is Winchester M-22 and Federal Spitfire and Remington Golden bullets. The accuracy I obviously need is squirrel size groups out to 50 yards or so. I will admit I am used to shooting traditional style rifles and not AR platforms but I can shoot and I had my sons shoot this rifle also and they had the same results. I will try and post a picture.

 

[tacticool22]

It looks a little too tall. Paralax comes into play.
The clamps look like they are for Weaver style rails.
A one piece scope mount (AR style) will help lock the scope to the upper.
I forgot to ask if the scope rings were bridging the gap, but you took care of that question.

 

[RV4driver]

Golden bullets will make a noise, but not a group.

CCI is good stuff, but it must work with YOUR gun/barrel, etc.

GIGO, in computer parlance.

 

[TheMaineEvent]

I have no experience with Federal Spitfire, but I wouldn't use Remington if I'm trying to get good groups. If you can get some CCI you should be safe as far as the ammo doing its part.
At this point, I'd clean the barrel really well and then season it with 10 rounds or so with one brand of ammo and then shoot some groups.

 

[Pinoc]

It looks a little too tall. Paralax comes into play.
The clamps look like they are for Weaver style rails.
A one piece scope mount (AR style) will help lock the scope to the upper.
I forgot to ask if the scope rings were bridging the gap, but you took care of that question.

I tried and mount the scope lower but I couldn't get my cheek low enough to see through it. Also aren't weaver style mounts OK?

 

[rwsmith]

Sure......

My son hunts squirrels with a BB gun....I think a 3 MOA .22 is perfectly fine


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If you limit it to close range the 3 MOA doesn't amount to a large group.

 

[Pinoc]

None of this tight grouping may matter now......I saw the Slidefire deal on the other post
I will be out of ammo soon if my sons get ahold of it!

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'd rather throw rocks than agonize over accuracy with my 15-22.

Precision shooting-

Plinking-

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Plinking-

Curious. Why do you put an IndexClip on just the ends of your rail? I prefer putting one every other slot, as that gives me a very firm gripping surface. But what does it do on just the ends?

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Curious. Why do you put an IndexClip on just the ends of your rail? I prefer putting one every other slot, as that gives me a very firm gripping surface. But what does it do on just the ends?

One on each end keeps the handguard from getting beat up when setting down on the bench between loading mags and stuff.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

One on each end keeps the handguard from getting beat up when setting down on the bench between loading mags and stuff.

Makes sense. I wondered if you ran out of money & could only afford a few, considering all the stuff attached to those guns.

 

[LittleCooner]

A good clean bore and no lead buildup at the front of the chamber goes a long way on accuracy with any 22LR. try to find some wolf match or match extra (probably around 5-8 bucks a box) and try that. Its about as good as it gets in the price range. cheap 22 LR ammo has a lot of fliers in each box, that's why it is cheap. use the good stuff to hunt with. like the rest of these answers, if you want good accuracy in the woods, buy a bolt action CZ and leave the "plinker" gun at home when you go hunting.

 

[tacticool22]

Some of the problem could be that the scope is so far back. You really want the centerline of the scope to be close to the centerline of iron sights.
That's why you need an AR mount.
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Weaver will work on Picatinny, but Picatinny will not work on Weaver.
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I tried and mount the scope lower but I couldn't get my cheek low enough to see through it. Also aren't weaver style mounts OK?

 

[GhostMutt]

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Weaver will not work on Picatinny, but Picatinny will work on Weaver.
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The other way around......http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/lid=...y_Rails__Weaver_Rails__What_s_The_Difference_

 

[ScoobyDoo]

I disagree with a couple of comments here. I think your scope's height is correct for a 15-22 (or any other AR style rifle) and I think the location of the scope is fine, particularly assuming the eye relief.

 

[rob55]

The only semi auto .22 I ever hunted with was a ruger semi auto pistol. Resting against a tree I could hit a gray squirrel in the head inside 10 yards 10 out of 10 times. I have a S&W 48K in magnum and a model 10 that would do the job on a squirrel but now it is too pricey and I can't see. My first real rifle was a Mossberg 42. Awesome peep sight. It would knock pennies over at 30 yards all day long. One shoots beer cans plastic spinners and zombie pictures with semi auto 22s. If you want to knock squirrels out of the tall pines get a rifle that will shoot MOA and practice. There will be no follow up shot. Head shot. One shot or nothing. When I was young I could do it with iron. I need glass to do it now.


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