Amazing search engine

[DWalt]

I was reading up on the new Chinese AI Chatbot, DeepSeek, that roiled the market today. I found that there are several

search engines out there that are now using it. One of them is called Perplexity AI, and there is a free version of it. It is nothing short of amazing. I threw several queries into it to see if I could stump it, but I couldn't. I got some extremely detailed answers on every question I asked. The wave of the future.

 

[Goldstar225]

What could possibly go wrong with chinese based AI?

 

[Rustyt1953]

I have yet to be stumped by a search engine.

 

[DWalt]

This is serious stuff. Opinion is that Deepseek is the future of AI and is the Chinese equivalent of Sputnik in the space race days that will catapult the Chinese into world AI leadership. And may keep them there.

 

[Onomea]

Well, could be...

But I wonder..

As I get it, my knowledge and interest being very superficial, the market dropped because investors thought, "Oh my goodness, the Chinese figured out how to make a really good AI/chatbot with inferior, less high end, chips which consume a lot less energy."

A Volkswagen, in a previous generation's car terms.

AI is evolving, moving, very quickly. I am not sure at all that high end chips are toast.

People still gonna want that Caddie, Charger, Vette, or, Ferrari.

(But, for sure, I do not know what I am talkin' about.. Just sayin'...)

 

[DWalt]

When Nvidia loses $600B of its market cap in one day, a lot of people must be seriously concerned.

 

[abigails&w]

Heard it's bit biased...

... towards Chinese communist propaganda.

Western AI companies got a bit too comfortable; this may well be a cold shower for them. Competition is good for the consumers.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I have sifted through the Rules and TOS and in them find no reference or inference as to how seriously I am to take a thread/post/comment.

If there have been recent amendments as to such someone point them out to me and I will add the appropriate number of furrows to my brow.

 

[CZU]

Ask it what happened in Tiananmen square in 1989, just wondering what the response would be.

 

[ladder13]

stolen technology.

 

[moosedog]

I wouldn't trust the Chinese with anything important. The Chinese Government has one major goal, and it's not Americas well-being.

 

[SMSgt]

The Chinese are masters of the long game. Instant gratification is not its goal.

 

[venomballistics]

What could possibly go wrong with chinese based AI?

Read up on Microsoft's "Tay" chat bot.
That'll start to answer the question

 

[TXBryan]

Given the angst Tic Toc has wrought why would we voluntarily use a ChiCom owned AI platform?

Bryan

 

[DWalt]

Ask it what happened in Tiananmen square in 1989, just wondering what the response would be.

I tried, Perplexity AI gave a neutral, if somewhat brief, account of the incident and provided a link to the much more detailed Wikipedia article about it. It did not say anything about its not being within its capability. Apparently DeepSeek is today's most downloaded app by far on the Apple Store. I think I'll wait for awhile before I do.

 

[Onomea]

Here's a writer for the NYT — gift article link below — giving his take on this:

...I'm skeptical of the most dramatic takes I've seen over the past few days — such as the claim, made by one Silicon Valley investor, that DeepSeek is an elaborate plot by the Chinese government to destroy the American tech industry. I also think it's plausible that the company's shoestring budget has been badly exaggerated, or that it piggybacked on advancements made by American A.I. firms in ways it hasn't disclosed.

But I do think that DeepSeek's R1 breakthrough was real. Based on conversations I've had with industry insiders, and a week's worth of experts poking around and testing the paper's findings for themselves, it appears to be throwing into question several major assumptions the American tech industry has been making....

Why DeepSeek Could Change What Silicon Valley Believe About A.I. - The New York Times

 

[LVSteve]

It would not surprise me if the Chinese, Indians, or the Russians came up with the AK of Chatbots. I recall in my radio ham days that the best coding for things like packet radio terminals came out of India.

 

[Telecaster]

1989 was pre-internet, so all it has to search from is modern sources put onto the internet.

Garbage in/garbage out.

 

[Birdgun]

I've been using the no charge form of Perplexity now for over six months and I find it an amazing AI, much better than ChatGPT I had previously used. Perplexity gives good concise answers, plus it references its sources of information that you can click on the links if you choose.

With my experience with Perplexity, I see no reason to try DeepSeek.

God bless,
Birdgun

 

[DWalt]

I've been using the no charge form of Perplexity now for over six months and I find it an amazing AI, much better than ChatGPT I had previously used. Perplexity gives good concise answers, plus it references its sources of information that you can click on the links if you choose.

With my experience with Perplexity, I see no reason to try DeepSeek.

God bless,
Birdgun

Seems as though Perplexity uses DeepSeek R1. Perplexity AI Deploys Chinese DeepSeek AI Model