Ammo everywhere

[Rudi]

Was at our bit of everything store today, at the gun counter. They had lots of the usual ammo, but also 30.06 and .38Spl!! Lots of .40cal too. No 10mm, but lots of various shotgun ammo too. A good sign.

 

[Greyman50]

Well, consider the “ just in time” production policies of many manufactures and all the “ new” buyers of firearms and ammo, we are where we are.
So called “ hoarding” of those that buy when prices are low are most likely children of parents that went through the great depression, taught to do so by their folks. Of course there are those with the intent of selling for a large profit. As for actual firearms sales, plastic and “ black gun” sales will taper off but quality all steel pistols and revolvers I doubt will see a drop in prices.

 

[Nevada Ed]

Hit up a couple of gun shops yesterday. There is no ammo shortage here. The big shops had pallets of ammo. Lots of different stuff around now. I saw lots of 30-06, 30-30, 300 Blackout, 270, 44 Mag, even lots of 45 Colt now. Tons of target shotgun shells and 209 primers. Just about everything that was available pre apocalypse is there now. Still no primers for everything else. I bought a couple of boxes of Magtech 380 at $26 a box and a brick of Aguila, 22LR for $45. More than I want to pay but I needed it so you have to pay to play.

Hang in there....................

it ain't deer season, just yet !!

 

[jschmidt]

Hoarders and paranoids have a limited amount of money. They spent it all last year.

I shudder to think how much ammo gets buried only to be lost when the owner dies.

 

[CH4]

Out west 357 is hard to find, actually most revolver cartridges. Odd ball rifle rounds like 300 savage, 35 Rem, 45-70 are still stupid high at $2 to $3 a round

 

[cmj8591]

Now some of the LGS's are actually running sales. Brass 9mm can be had for about $16 a box. That's down quite a bit around me. If you are not locked in to a specific brand, just about everything is out there. If you are locked into something that needs to be ordered, then you will have a wait. Reloading supplies are available in good numbers. Powder is going from $35 to $50 a pound depending on what you want. It seems like some powders sell out fast but they are restocked quickly. Primers are stubborn. They are around depending on when you go looking but they just don't want to drop below that $100 per thousand. All in all, it seems like progress is being made.

 

[kbm6893]

Ammo is around because the panic that fueled people paying any absurd price that was named has died down, and those that are left are still not going to pay $18 for target 9MM and consider it a good deal. That is more than double the price from 2 years ago. I am aware of inflation, but a 100% increase is absurd. I said this when the craziness started. Manufacturers are going to see that people are willing to pay 70% more and are going to charge that. Only way to stop them is to not buy it. People on this thread calling $18 for 9MM a good deal are the problem. Primers that used to be $40 going to $55-$60? I’ll hold my nose and pay it. Not like I buy them everyday. But $100? No way. I could afford it but it’s the principle. I don’t like being fleeced for corporate greed.

Not me. I’ve got several thousand rounds loaded and the ability to make several thousand more. My shooting has dropped dramatically, other than .22. I’m fully aware prices are going to be higher, but if $100 bricks of primers are going to be the norm I will be saying goodbye to the shooting sports and just keeping what I have for a rainy day.

 

[cmj8591]

Ammo is around because the panic that fueled people paying any absurd price that was named has died down, and those that are left are still not going to pay $18 for target 9MM and consider it a good deal. That is more than double the price from 2 years ago. I am aware of inflation, but a 100% increase is absurd. I said this when the craziness started. Manufacturers are going to see that people are willing to pay 70% more and are going to charge that. Only way to stop them is to not buy it. People on this thread calling $18 for 9MM a good deal are the problem. Primers that used to be $40 going to $55-$60? I’ll hold my nose and pay it. Not like I buy them everyday. But $100? No way. I could afford it but it’s the principle. I don’t like being fleeced for corporate greed.

Not me. I’ve got several thousand rounds loaded and the ability to make several thousand more. My shooting has dropped dramatically, other than .22. I’m fully aware prices are going to be higher, but if $100 bricks of primers are going to be the norm I will be saying goodbye to the shooting sports and just keeping what I have for a rainy day.

The problem with not buying is that the decrease in price is short term and only lasts until the ammo already produced is gone. If there is a slowdown in consumption, the manufacturers adjust by reducing production, not by decreasing profit margin. Once the ammo that has already been produced is sold off, less will be available and the lesser demand means that less will be produced. Your solution of removing yourself from the sport and not being a consumer is the only way to avoid the issue completely. But if a large majority of shooters decide to do that, don't expect the prices to come down long term.

 

[kbm6893]

The problem with not buying is that the decrease in price is short term and only lasts until the ammo already produced is gone. If there is a slowdown in consumption, the manufacturers adjust by reducing production, not by decreasing profit margin. Once the ammo that has already been produced is sold off, less will be available and the lesser demand means that less will be produced. Your solution of removing yourself from the sport and not being a consumer is the only way to avoid the issue completely. But if a large majority of shooters decide to do that, don't expect the prices to come down long term.

Prices are gonna do what they do. I’m willing to suck up a 50% increase. If that’s not enough it’s been fun while it lasted. My kids can shoot up my reloads and then decide if they want to pay the ridiculous prices.

 

[ZGrand]

They're opening a new Academy Sports store in my town -- grand opening this weekend. I was passing by today and noticed cars in the parking lot, so I stopped and walked in. They were having an unannounced pre-opening day. I walked back to the ammo area, and the shelves were jam packed with just about every caliber. The prices were average for a big box store, so I thought I would buy a little for grins. I had a box of 38 Special, 45 ACP, and 357 Magnum in my hand, and was looking at the 44 Mag and Special. A sales dude comes up and says, "I'm sorry sir - I guess you didn't see the sign. Limit one box". One box??. He said, "I know -- it's ridiculous. They're trying to make sure they have enough for the grand opening. Come back tomorrow and you can get four boxes". Oh well. Left with one box of Blazer Brass 357 Mag. I won't be going back tomorrow -- I'm sure it'll be a zoo.

 

[robrossk]

How much? If you don’t mind sharing.

 

[ZGrand]

$34.95 for a box of 50 semi-jacketed soft hollow points. Not terrific, but about average these days for 357 Mag.

 

[Empe]

I completely agree with you about the conspiracy theories.

But stocking up when prices are low and not buying when prices are high reduces the impact of wild swings in demand, it doesn't make things worse.

If stockpilers hadn't been buying a lot of ammo a few years back when ammo was cheap ammo makers might have decided to get out of the business or cut costs by reducing their production capacity to meet reduced demand. Importers might have decided it was not worth the hassle to start selling in the US market. So supply would be even more restricted and prices would be higher today.

And if everyone shooting from their stockpile was instead buying ammo demand would be even higher today. And so would prices.

Stocking up a few years ago when prices were low was a shrewd thing to do. Ammo was everywhere and inexpensive so it didn't hurt anyone else then. And it is certainly not making ammo more expensive today.

Yes....excellent point. Those who purchased when prices were low were smart not " hoarders" or " stockpilers" . And if they had enough on hand and did not need to buy during the shortage they certainly didn't add to the problem .

 

[Empe]

I shoot .45 acp , .357 , 38 , 9mm and a WHOLE lot of .22 rimfire . Thank goodness for .22 rimfire !