Ammo insanity

I must be a fool as yesterday I ran into a good friend at the gunshop that is just getting started shooting. He was looking for a .22 lr rifle. They had a very nice Ruger 77/22 with a 4X Bushnell scope that he bought for $550.00. But they were out of .22 lr ammo and a lot of others so I told him stop by the house and I'd help him out. I gave him 200 rnds of some Remington UMC that 20 years ago I paid $5.00 per 500 but I bought 10,000 rnds .I also gave him 100 rnds of Winchester hollow points and a 550 bulk pack of Remington that I got at Cabellas a few years ago. I think I still have enough .22 lr to last me several years. By the way I only charged him $20.00.
 
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I must be a fool as yesterday I ran into a good friend at the gunshop that is just getting started shooting. He was looking for a .22 lr rifle. They had a very nice Ruger 77/22 with a 4X Bushnell scope that he bought for $550.00. But they were out of .22 lr ammo and a lot of others so I told him stop by the house and I'd help him out. I gave him 200 rnds of some Remington UMC that 20 years ago I paid $5.00 per 500 but I bought 10,000 rnds .I also gave him 100 rnds of Winchester hollow points and a 550 bulk pack of Remington that I got at Cabellas a few years ago. I think I still have enough .22 lr to last me several years. By the way I only charged him $20.00.

No Sir, you are not a fool, you said so in your second sentence. You said he was a good friend. And by all you said you treated him like one. For this you get an official ATTA BOY.

terry
 
Dang, I just shot up a box of .22LR that had a price tag of $.79 on it.
I wuz afeared the powder was gonna wear out.:(
 
I must be a fool as yesterday I ran into a good friend at the gunshop that is just getting started shooting. He was looking for a .22 lr rifle. They had a very nice Ruger 77/22 with a 4X Bushnell scope that he bought for $550.00. But they were out of .22 lr ammo and a lot of others so I told him stop by the house and I'd help him out. I gave him 200 rnds of some Remington UMC that 20 years ago I paid $5.00 per 500 but I bought 10,000 rnds .I also gave him 100 rnds of Winchester hollow points and a 550 bulk pack of Remington that I got at Cabellas a few years ago. I think I still have enough .22 lr to last me several years. By the way I only charged him $20.00.

I said I wouldn't do it but a couple of weeks ago I sold two friends some of my .223 stash. UMC 55gr FMJ. One bought 500 rounds, the other bought 200 rounds.

I sold it for 40¢ per round, the going price pre/panic. And I only sold it because these were friends in need. Someone's wants will never sway me from my guarding own interests first, but their needs just might.

Last week I gave another friend a couple of 50-round boxes of .22LR, a 25-round box of 12 gauge birdshot, and a 5-round box of 12 gauge 00 buckshot. Just so the old coot would have some sort of ammo for the two guns he has. He was down to about two dozen .22LRs and 3 or 4 shotgun shells.

He bought me a cheeseburger & fries.

If we can't put aside our gluttony and our greed, and help each other in a time like this, there is no future to worry about.

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When I first started reading this post I got so depressed I went out and cast about 600 38 bullets.

Did an inventory of my primers and powder while I was at it. I figure I can ride out this storm.

Now for the price of Hay...........don't know about that.
 
I recently bought 500 rounds of Eley target pistol ammo from Midway for about $215 delivered. I was feeling somewhat bad about spending this much for 22LR until I saw 500 rounds of plinking ammo on Gunbroker for abote $120. Target ammo is to some extent still available on the internet and costs only little more than plinking stuff elsewhere.
 
Last night I heard about a store in the next county that has .22s for $80. for a 500 rd. carton. That seems unreal to me but if you don't have any I guess it is a bargain. As long as I have at least a half box I won't need to buy from him. Larry
 
Last night I heard about a store in the next county that has .22s for $80. for a 500 rd. carton. That seems unreal to me but if you don't have any I guess it is a bargain. As long as I have at least a half box I won't need to buy from him. Larry
Might you have driven over and bought a couple cartons if they were, say, $20 each? Maybe not, but anyway, at $80 you're not about to buy ammo you don't desperately need. So maybe there'll be some still available for someone who does desperately need it.

That's one of the effects of so-called "gouging." It tends to make people think twice and maybe limit the amount they buy of commodities that are suddenly in extreme demand.

Conservative economist Thomas Sowell once wrote an eye-opening column on this. It's probably somewhere on his website (tsowell.com). Worth reading.
 
How sad we are becoming our own worst enemy.

I have wondered if one could create a need for flaming dog feces in the shooting sports and then tell people they can't have it, how high the price would climb.

We have two dogs. If you manage to create the shortage let me know and I'll help you fill orders.
 
I recently bought 500 rounds of Eley target pistol ammo from Midway for about $215 delivered. I was feeling somewhat bad about spending this much for 22LR until I saw 500 rounds of plinking ammo on Gunbroker for abote $120. Target ammo is to some extent still available on the internet and costs only little more than plinking stuff elsewhere.

What was it going for pre-panic? I am unfamiliar with high-end 22 ammo.

Also I have to ask, did you HAVE to buy this ammo right now? Did you need it for a competition and/or competition practice?
 
Rummer has it that cleaning patches are also going up so hang on to your drawers fellas even the stained ones will be worth gold.

I can always cut them out of old underwear. Are those the stained one's we're discussing here? :(

OK, folks have different means. We made different wages over the years and some of us saved more than others.

These aren't the bad times, yet. Price gouging has a place. It keeps ammo available for those who suddenly see the light and will pay the outrageous prices. This coming week there's a show in Southern Kentucky. I may just dig out a case of 1000 9mm and maybe 20 boxes of 550 Federals and see what I can wring out of them. Don't cry for me, I still may have a handful of 22s if things get even tougher. And if things do get better, I'll just re-invest in ammo. Or give the money to Momma for safe keeping. :)

We all need to learn our lessons. For me it was in the late 1950s and early 1960s. I was poor. But I had an old beat up Marlin bolt 22 and somehow was given a 4x tip off mount scope. It was ugly, but I could hit what I aimed at, usually. I mostly never had more than a box of ammo and a handful of odd cartridges. Me going shooting over at the dump or gravel pit almost never saw me with more than 30 rounds. And I always carried home 5 or 6 rounds. Never use your last shot, or shots if you expected wild indians to attack.

I had friends and other shooters (I didn't consider them all to be friends, some just useful idiots) who had semi auto 22s. God they had fun burning up the entire magazine throwing lead "at" a target. Often a panel of an old car, or an appliance. To their credit, they usually walked their shots in and scored a few hits. But they were rich kids and just enjoyed what they were doing. I couldn't. Rapid fire with a bolt gun wasn't one of my skills. One of the kids dads said something that I repeated many times. He told his kid and some others not to pick up the ammo they dropped. It picked up sand and would damage the action and chamber of their 22s. God I loved it. They'd just leave that gold lying on the ground! And yes, when they left, I'd pick it up. I'd even wipe it off on my T shirt and shoot it! If you invested an hour you could sometimes pick up another box of ammo. All of it mixed. But at the 40 or so yards, you didn't notice any ill effect from different ammo.

Even 50+ years ago, I could have a fun afternoon shooting 50 rounds, picking up 30 or so off the ground. Better still, I could usually hit what I aimed at even if it took me a few seconds to aim. Granted not as much fun as burning a magazine load. But I didn't have that capability anyway.

And I guess I've heard the end of kids at the indoor range ripping away a 30 round magazine of .223s. At one of the 2 indoor ranges within easy driving distance, I always looked at the owner of the ranges face when they did that. He always got a grin. They mostly bought their ammo from him. Now that its a $1 a shot everyone will think they're stupid.

I also wonder if the good old days of sweeping the range floor will be over. My youngest used to bring home bags full of empties. The problem was he'd give it to his older brother, not to dad. Cause and effect, he doesn't get free ammo to burn now.

Back to the shortages. The domestic makers already make over a billion rounds a year of 22s. Foreign suppliers probably make that much, too. Every maker is cranked up to full blast. What this little run on the market has done is empty the entire pipeline. There is still ammo rolling in at the manufacturer end. But as soon as it appears in a retail setting, it vanishes. Cry was we do about the economy, there is a lot of money and pent up demand. This shortage will continue until all the guys who are suffering have their 10,000 round stockpile. Or however much they feel is adequate. Then slowly the warehouses and store shelves will start making it from one delivery to the next without running out. The word from the SHOT show was it'll take them 2 years to catch up. The risk is when they finally do, shooters will begin shooting their stockpile, not buying more as they have in the past.

Suddenly there will be ammo on the shelves and more in the back room. So they'll have a sale. And you can bet I'll be there with Ben Franklin's waiting for it.

Remember the old saying "a fool and his money are soon parted?" That'll be my slogan next weekend. And I'll hope the shortage goes away and not get worse so I'll regret selling.
 
At the time I thought I might be able to find it cheaper. :rolleyes:



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.22 Ammo in Badgerland

Here in Wisc (also Minnesota) we have Fleet Farm Stores. Was in today and picked up four (4) boxes of CCI Stingers at $5.29 per box. On December 27th they had them on sale for $4.89 per box and got a couple boxes at that time. The gophers on the farm will be in trouble now!

I was probably lucky today, the trolly was in front of the ammo shelves and they were restocking. Outside of 22 shot shells and of course the Stingers, 30.06 had the largest selection. Even the slow moving calibers were cleaned out.
 
Cleaning patches???? I never buy them at a show or shop. I quietly slip into the fabric store and by flannel by the yard.....CHEAP. The lady even showed me the different colors they had, guess she really thought I was going to be domestic or something.

Bring that stuff home and slice or cut it up into sizes you need. It is good stuff.
 
I am doing what I can to help. I keep putting 1000 rd. lots of mini-mag on gunbroker with a starting price of a penny with no reserve, but they won't leave it there.
 

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