"ANIB" 10-5 2" Pics added...

[EdF702]

A friend called me with a BNIB S&W model 10-5 2" snub nose with a square frame. Gun is 100% with original box (a little surface rough) with papers, wrapper paper and unopened tools. Sorry but I don't have pics.

Any opinions as to a fair price?

 

[1blindref]

If the gun is truly a 99% gun with little to no turn line, original numbered to the gun box and grips, I'd say in the $450.00 range would be about right in my neck of the woods.

 

[DAinTX]

$450 - $500 as described, IMO. Of course, I probably love snubbie Model 10s as much as anyone here.

 

[EdF702]

Thanks for the quick replies! He's looking for $600+ .... It's cool to find near 30 year old "new old stock", but I don't see it as collectable so much as interesting.

 

[BUFF]

I'm sorry, but what does the "B" in "BNIB" stand for?

 

[VM]

I'm sorry, but what does the "B" in "BNIB" stand for?

'bout new in box

 

[phatmax]

$450 - $500 as described, IMO. Of course, I probably love snubbie Model 10s as much as anyone here.

I think this is a fair assessment. A 6 shot snub is nice and they is really just north of modern 5 shot j frames.

 

[bellevance]

Right, $450 these days for ANIB. I picked up mine, as new, with period holster, box, and Tyler-T for $300 just a few years back. Great little gun--but there are a lot of them out there. I've put some rounds through it since then.

Now dressed in bird's-eye maple stocks:

 

[jsfricks]

My 10-5 was pretty pricey, but its police marked and carried with original box and papers and felt like it was worth it.

 

[mbliss57]

A friend called me with a BNIB S&W model 10-5 2" snub nose with a square frame. Gun is 100% with original box (a little surface rough) with papers, wrapper paper and unopened tools. Sorry but I don't have pics.

Any opinions as to a fair price?

Your description is a little cryptic. You call it BNIB (what do you mean by that?) 2 terms that are usually used are NIB meaning you are the 1st purchaser from the factory. ANIB (AS new in box) means it looks like it is NIB but it has been purchased before but it hasn't been shot and kept so that it still looks like it came from the factory.
Also 100% would mean that it has never been fired, (except test firing at factory) and that it looks like a brand new gun. No scratches, rust, surface roughness, dents... Like you would pick it up from the dealer brand new.

So with those definitions what do you have? Do the grips S/N match the gun? What are the 1st 3 digits of the s/n? Do the stocks (grips) have diamond where the screw goes through it?

Pics would really help.

Most 10-5 snubbies will go for $300-$500 depending on condition. One that is truly ANIB might break the $500 mark if it is really pristine. But $600 is high for any model 10 that is post WW2. I am not sure about pre war (pre model 10's) .38 HE Model 1905 1-4th change and even as far back as .38 HE Model of 1899 and 1902. These were all the fore runners of the model 10. The Victory Models during the war in pristine condition I have seen go for $500-$550.

 

[Black_Sheep]

This one was $500 and I was happy to pay it. You just don't see any nice vintage S&W revolvers for sale around here.

No box or papers...

 

[TexasRider]

Here 500 - 600 based on what you say. Has a little rough etc.

One thing is the snub is going to bring more now.

Other is it has its box and I assume papers. Those 2 are at least $100 premium .

If it truly absolutely as new in box ANIB with everything perfect then it could be and likely will be more.

And even more if it would be in nickel.

 

[WASATCH CHARLIE]

YA can 't shoot the box!!!

This one was $500 and I was happy to pay it. You just don't see any nice vintage S&W revolvers for sale around here.

No box or papers...

BLACK SHEEP, beautifull revolver!! a steal for $500.
your money,your ammo,!!!!!! if YOU are pleased with the purchase,thats all that matters!!!

 

[KEN L]

I'm sorry, but what does the "B" in "BNIB" stand for?

Basically New In Box

Brand New In Box

??

 

[EdF702]

"BNIB"... My bad, "brand new in box" but that's impossible since it's 30 odd years old. "ANIB" would be an accurate description. It's a square butt 10-5 with a blued finish. It looks like it was purchased and put in the safe. There is no turn ring and even almost no marks on the frame near the firing pin from opening and closing the cylinder. The finish is unmarked. It is not a highly polished finish, but it is unmarked... no pits, rust or blemishes that I noticed.

The stocks are checkered square butt walnut magnas but I don't know if they are marked with the serial number. I didn't remove them to check (but it would be a safe bet that they are original to the gun). The box, wrapping paper, literature and an unopened "cleaning kit" is included and the label on the box matches the gun in every way. Truly, it is a "ANIB" gun.

 

[TexasRider]

Then it is probably worth the $600 .

 

[1blindref]

"BNIB"... My bad, "brand new in box" but that's impossible since it's 30 odd years old. "ANIB" would be an accurate description. It's a square butt 10-5 with It looks like it was purchased and put in the safe. There is no turn ring and even almost no marks on the frame near the firing pin from opening and closing the cylinder. The finish is unmarked. It is not a highly polished finish, but it is unmarked... no pits, rust or blemishes that I noticed.

The stocks are checkered square butt walnut magnas but I don't know if they are marked with the serial number. I didn't remove them to check (but it would be a safe bet that they are original to the gun). The box, wrapping paper, literature and an unopened "cleaning kit" is included and the label on the box matches the gun in every way. Truly, it is a "ANIB" gun.

Guns in this condition are getting harder to find and usually worth a premium over their regular used value. You have to take into consideration how many of that model were made, as to how much of a premium it is worth.

The other factor is how bad do you want it?
I'm sure you've heard it before, "you didn't pay too much, you just bought it a little early".
How early you buy it usually goes hand in hand with how bad you want it

 

[tompehret]

I paid $330.00 for mine last fall, but (and a big but at that) no box and nothing original other than the numbered grips. Some blemishes and bluing wear. In other words a shooter and serviceable CCW piece. It did come with a case and an extra set of Pachmeyer grips along with the originals with a holster thown in. A good deal all-in-all. That was then; this is now. Yours sounds like a very different animal. Pride of ownership, collector value, bragging rights all add to value. Plus the "gun inflation" of the past year.
So, you want it? Buy it. I would.

 

[mbliss57]

"BNIB"... My bad, "brand new in box" but that's impossible since it's 30 odd years old. "ANIB" would be an accurate description. It's a square butt 10-5 with It looks like it was purchased and put in the safe. There is no turn ring and even almost no marks on the frame near the firing pin from opening and closing the cylinder. The finish is unmarked. It is not a highly polished finish, but it is unmarked... no pits, rust or blemishes that I noticed.

The stocks are checkered square butt walnut magnas but I don't know if they are marked with the serial number. I didn't remove them to check (but it would be a safe bet that they are original to the gun). The box, wrapping paper, literature and an unopened "cleaning kit" is included and the label on the box matches the gun in every way. Truly, it is a "ANIB" gun.

The 10-5 was around from 1962-1977.
Does it have a C or D prefix in S/N? Does it have diamond magnas or plain?
The diamond magnas would mean it probably has a C prefix. There is a transition in the 1968/69 where It could still have diamonds and a D prefix.
I ask because diamond magnas and a C prefix would bring a little more $. (I would pay more anyway.)
If you really like it then buy it. If you are paying a little high what does that matter? Used guns don't have fixed values. They are quite subjective. I have bought many guns that were a little over priced. I wanted them for a collection niche or just because I wanted it. No one will care what you paid for it anyway. In reality what you paid for it is your own business.. no one else. (except the seller) People will be looking at the pristine example of an ANIB model 10 that is pushing 50 years old. In truth I don't thinks it's polite to ask what someone paid for a gun unless of course they offer the info.
Also, as others have said... at least right now snubbies bring a little more $.

 

[boykinlp]

Looking forward to seeing the pictures of YOUR new gun.

 

[TexasRider]

The best ones are always $100 or $200 more . If I think it should be $500 then it is $550-$600 . If I think $1500 it is $1600- $1700. For some of them it is worth it though.

One thing I try to look at is what is a new one. Say last week at the gunshow my bud bought a new production 642 for $600 out the door. It was a good enough buy with the enhanced action from S&W , taxes, etc.

So if I could get the one you are looking at for $600 and it is new, or as new etc, then I got the vintage that I wanted for still inside the price.

I know other guys are the same way. Maybe it is just little games we play with ourselves to justify what we pay for what we want . But it seems to work .

I know this, I wont let $100 stop me from getting the one I do want, but I also wont let a discount make me buy the one that I dont want. Discipline huh .

 

[EdF702]

You are all a bunch of enablers! You should be ashamed of yourselves.... well, maybe not so much in this case! The gun was all it was made out to be, perhaps even better. The gun is awesome, the box is original but the finish on the box is "iffy" at best, but everything else is better than I had even hoped.

I am now the proud owner of a "new" 45 year old S&W model 10! I just took some quick pics (I did use my "good" camera though), for your review. I was even able to get the price down a bit!

Let me know what you all think....

 

[1blindref]

very nice - congrats!

 

[mbliss57]

That is one nice revolver! You done great! The SQ butt snubbies are a little less common than the RB.

Here is mine a 10-5 with a C999983 S/N 17 short of a D.

 

[EdF702]

mbliss57.... That is a very nice model 10 you've got there. My "new" one is a "D" serial number in the 700,000 range, which, according to my S&W book puts it in 1968.

In 1968 I was 11 years old, MLK and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated, there was the DNC in Chicago riots and on and on... These "oldish" revolvers are connections to our history.... I can hold them and feel a connection to "their" times.

An interesting coincidence with my "new" M10; My first revolver was a S&W 10-5 4" pencil barrel also from 1968! I picked it up in a local shop for a whopping $200!

 

[mbliss57]

mbliss57.... That is a very nice model 10 you've got there. My "new" one is a "D" serial number in the 700,000 range, which, according to my S&W book puts it in 1968.

In 1968 I was 11 years old, MLK and Bobby Kennedy were assassinated, there was the DNC in Chicago riots and on and on... These "oldish" revolvers are connections to our history.... I can hold them and feel a connection to "their" times.

An interesting coincidence with my "new" M10; My first revolver was a S&W 10-5 4" pencil barrel also from 1968! I picked it up in a local shop for a whopping $200!

That would make us the same age. I agree that these revolvers from the 1950's, 1960's, and the 1970's are a part of my childhood and teen years. There is a lot of nostalgia and mystique and history in those years.
Kennedy, Ruby, MLK, Bobby Kennedy, the 1968 riots,Woodstock, Son of Sam...and last but not least Dragnet and Andy Griffith show. When I buy these revolvers from the 1950's through the 1970's I am buying a piece of history that I lived through. (I forgot about Car 54 too.)
And through those three decades I learned to shoot, hunt and eventually serve my country in the Army.
And during those years, those a little older were defending us from Vietnam... and hats off to all the LEOs that chose to serve as well. I guess I'm becoming too sentimental.
It was a good 3 decades.

 

[mc5aw]

Another issue to consider is "watcha gonna do widdit?" $600 for a safe queen? Maybe, but little queenie is going to be a lot older before she's worth $1,000. $600 for a mint carry K-frame snub? You betcha.

Enjoy that snub. Find some .38 Specials then get to the range and give it the workout it's been patiently waiting over three decades for.

 

[EdF702]

Another issue to consider is "watcha gonna do widdit?" $600 for a safe queen? Maybe, but little queenie is going to be a lot older before she's worth $1,000. $600 for a mint carry K-frame snub? You betcha.

Enjoy that snub. Find some .38 Specials then get to the range and give it the workout it's been patiently waiting over three decades for.

Like I "need" more temptation.... You sir, are mean! LOL!

 

[BobR1]

My last two purchases have been a 10-5 RB Snub, and a 15-5 Square Butt Snub.
The 15-5 looked to be unfired.
The 10-5 has a little blue wear at the muzzle, and some brown Patena on the back strap.
I have $600 in the 15-5, and probably $550 in the 10-5. In my area they are pretty scarce. I think they are around, just never show up for sale.
These two are the only Blued K Frame Snubs I can remember ever seeing for sale in my area.

For a like new 10-5 snub $600 is probably not all that bad in my opinion.

Bob

 

[gatchelguy]

I am 80 Y. O. and still learning. Two questions. What is the big deal about the grips being numbered to the gun? And how is the number applied to the grip; is it stamped, printed, pencil?