Shoot them too!!
Another drone shooting. This is not going to go away.
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Shoot them too!!
keith44spl
Member
It's informative threads like this that gets the juices flowing...
What munitions to use for errant un-manned toy aircrafts with
image capturing equipment on board and or other 'peepin' toms'.......
While rummaging through my ol special response bag, found some bean bags....Perfect!!!!
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What munitions to use for errant un-manned toy aircrafts with
image capturing equipment on board and or other 'peepin' toms'.......
While rummaging through my ol special response bag, found some bean bags....Perfect!!!!
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ibewbull
US Veteran
So if the danger of the drone falling and injuring a person or property is so great. Then flying one over people or property is therefore endangering anyone or property below.
Flying these things also puts real manned aircraft at risk so obviously legislation is needed ASAP.
This is another Pandora's Box opened.
Flying these things also puts real manned aircraft at risk so obviously legislation is needed ASAP.
This is another Pandora's Box opened.
Rogue Wizard
Member
Magload
US Veteran
That might work now just show the jury the news video of the drone carrying a handgun and shooting it.
SeamasterSig
Member
While rummaging through my ol special response bag, found some bean bags....Perfect!!!!
That'd work! If it's flying low enough that you can hit it with hand-thrown bean bags, it's clearly too low.
OP
Nemo288
Member
More developments
New telemetry suggests shot-down drone was higher than alleged
Drone operator is getting into the trial by publicity act now.
Some discussion of legal minimum required flying heights.
New telemetry suggests shot-down drone was higher than alleged
Drone operator is getting into the trial by publicity act now.
Some discussion of legal minimum required flying heights.
YogiBear
Absent Comrade
Aloha,
My neighbor has several of them and they are buzzing throughout the neighborhood.
Since we live close to the local Marine base.
I suspect that the drones have overflown the base, but, I can't prove it.
I have contacted the base and was told unless there is Proof they're not interested.
It will be interesting at Christmas when POTUS comes and he is flying a drone over the President's convoy.
I do know the convoy has ECM because my garage door will Not open when he goes by.
I've always wondered if one of the big SUVs in the convoy has a Dillon 134 in it.
My neighbor has several of them and they are buzzing throughout the neighborhood.
Since we live close to the local Marine base.
I suspect that the drones have overflown the base, but, I can't prove it.
I have contacted the base and was told unless there is Proof they're not interested.
It will be interesting at Christmas when POTUS comes and he is flying a drone over the President's convoy.
I do know the convoy has ECM because my garage door will Not open when he goes by.
I've always wondered if one of the big SUVs in the convoy has a Dillon 134 in it.
I don't get those suggesting that shooting a drone is like shooting a person. If I see a peeping tom looking over my privacy fence with binoculars or a periscope, I'm going to snatch it, and he ain't getting it back from me, maybe the cops will give it back to him. And if I dropped it, oh, so sorry.
keith44spl
Member
The drone owner is claiming his 'craft' never got below a hundred and ninety three feet (193 ft.)
And did not hovered.
If that is a true fact....Purty darn good scatter gun shooting.
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DD357
Member
Drone owner is a liar.
What would happen if he flew his drone 193 ft. above the White House? Larry
OP
Nemo288
Member
"I don't get those suggesting that shooting a drone is like shooting a person."
I am not sure anyone has suggested exactly that.
The main legal problem is that the FAA views shooting a drone the same as shooting an airplane and consequently takes a very dim view of it.
This then raises the question to the FAA of why drones are not currently regulated the same as airplanes (pilot training, license, flight rules, etc.).
I am sure they are trying hard to make this so but the hardware is evolving faster than the glacial pace of bureaucracy can keep up.
The second legal problem is whatever local statutes exist covering the discharge of firearms at your house (if any).
These are all over the map (pun intended) and going to be the first thing to incur the wrath of your gendarmerie.
As with any other self defense situation, one needs to know all the rules.
This can be a third problem, as we have seen, as the authorities make rules up on the spot.
I am not sure anyone has suggested exactly that.
The main legal problem is that the FAA views shooting a drone the same as shooting an airplane and consequently takes a very dim view of it.
This then raises the question to the FAA of why drones are not currently regulated the same as airplanes (pilot training, license, flight rules, etc.).
I am sure they are trying hard to make this so but the hardware is evolving faster than the glacial pace of bureaucracy can keep up.
The second legal problem is whatever local statutes exist covering the discharge of firearms at your house (if any).
These are all over the map (pun intended) and going to be the first thing to incur the wrath of your gendarmerie.
As with any other self defense situation, one needs to know all the rules.
This can be a third problem, as we have seen, as the authorities make rules up on the spot.
This is what happens when our laws don't protect our privacy and right to peace in our own homes. I mean, who really wants some unknown creep hovering over his backyard casing the joint, or taking pictures of his children. The homeowner has no knowledge of the intentions of the drone owner when this happens. Is it a rapist, robber, kidnap planner or just a garden variety garden pervert taking pictures?
Fastbolt
Member
The potential for any individual risking creating a legal/civil problem for themselves probably will depend on the laws governing their intended deliberate actions, and sometimes these things may not be as easily lumped together as the average person "reacting in the spur of the moment" might suspect, and later come to realize, to their regret.
For example ...
Discharging a firearm in other than clearly defined allowable circumstances (shooting range, allowable private range as may be defined by local ordinance, hunting, etc) may be subject to laws which define the discharge as something including the use of deadly force, especially in a deliberately negligent manner.
Also, forcible taking the property of someone, especially from their person, may create a situation where it might be considered anything from a simple theft, up to a robbery (no weapon used, but done by physical force and/or fear, with resistance on the part of the victim, etc).
Suspicion that rude behavior on the part of someone automatically makes it unlawful behavior, does not automatically mean that it is, or that the professed "victim" may therefore react in any manner they "feel is right".
Even if someone manages to avoid the expense and time of being on the wrong end of criminal action, that may still expose them to civil action. The standards needed to be found guilty in a criminal action are usually much more strict than losing in a civil action.
In other words, common sense and the presence of mind of the "reasonable person" sometimes seem to flee in the presence of someone reacting in an emotional, and perhaps ill considered "But I don't think that's right and I'm going to DO something about it!!!" response to a situation.
Thinking about the probable prudent response to these sort of situations in advance might, or might not, help some people learn how to better regulate their desired responses. Learning from the example and experience of other persons might also be illuminating.
In the final result, we're apparently still graduating students from law school at a brisk pace, and they can even take subsequent courses to help them pass the bar in their chosen states. They've got to find work, right?
bhayles
Member
Not true. While the FAA claims, thru FAA regulations, all airspace over 300 Ft AGL, federal law says a property owner owns the airspace over their property, period.
It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
jlrhiner
US Veteran
And..... We're off!!!!
Drone drops drugs in Ohio prison yard, sparking inmate fight - CBS News
Wonder if the guards should have shot at it?
Drone drops drugs in Ohio prison yard, sparking inmate fight - CBS News
Wonder if the guards should have shot at it?
Capt.Jim
Member
Sorry Yosemite Sam!
Here's a positive News Story to make you feel a little better!
But, I am sure if your kids were on that beach you'll be chasing that drone with your gun drawn and shooting while running and screaming "spy, spy!!!"
Drone used to spot sharks in Seal Beach | abc7.com
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