Another gun pointing home owner charged

[johngross]

And he's the husband of the Los Angeles District attorney, from an incident back on March 2, 2020.

Husband of L.A. County DA Jackie Lacey charged with assault after waving gun at protesters | KTLA


Video of the incident here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h9h2BSXomQ

 

[moosedog]

If he would have kept the gun pointed down instead of at the people, there would be no problem. You have to be in fear of your life before you can legally point it at the person.
Of course politics will also play a big part in the way this is handled.

 

[LoboGunLeather]

My goodness, a mob gathers on the porch and front yard of a public official for the specific purpose of provoking an incident, now they are upset about the results.

Unfortunately, in this case the DA's husband gave these "peaceful protestors" exactly what they wanted to achieve.

Fortunately, the gentleman did not give them any martyrs or poster boys for their propaganda machines to exploit.

 

[flagman1776]

The strategy of opening the door, in the presence of trespassers is really poorly thought out. He pointed a gun at them, finger on the trigger and said he would shoot them. Sounds like assault to me.

Nothing good will come from opening the door.

Property should have been posted. Put a sign in the window that says "NO COMMENT".

Massad Ayoob "Don't Answer The Door!!!" - YouTube

 

[tops]

People are trespassing on your porch and yard and you point a gun at them and you are the criminal. It's my opinion that there is a lot wrong with this situation and some laws need too be changed. Larry

 

[biku324]

But the laws are what they are. Most are the same as they've been for decades, if not generations.

 

[6518John]

I turn on the sprinklers when I have unwanted "guests" ringing the doorbell. You get soaked making a run for it!

 

[Ziggy2525]

I turn on the sprinklers when I have unwanted "guests" ringing the doorbell. You get soaked making a run for it!

Good plan. In California (where the OP happened) it would probably get you arrested for some type of environmental crime.

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[Echo40]

As stupid as this guy obviously was for opening the door, pointing his firearm at protesters, and threatening to shoot them was, these protesters really get way too much leeway here.

Honestly, this is a public disturbance at best, trespassing and harassment at worst and it shouldn't be allowed. Is there a way to stop it peacefully, I don't know, but exactly how far is this sort of thing allowed to go before the police should step in?

I'm really glad that I don't live particularly close to the city because if a bunch of -- Man, at times like these is it difficult to refrain from using curse words -- "peaceful protesters" were making a nuisance of themselves in my neighborhood, much less out on my front lawn, then I would be extremely aggravated by the situation.

Now obviously, I wouldn't behave aggressively towards them, I'd probably just do my absolute best to ignore them in hopes that they'd go away, but man, would that be annoying.

 

[Oracle]

He certainly stepped right into the pile of dung they laid with both feet, face palm.

Good thing his wife is an attorney.

 

[Drm50]

Stricter laws on protesters need passed. To me protesting stops the minute another's rights are violated. These so called protesters are getting away with the same things that would get a cop fired. Citizens have the right to safety. Especially in their homes. Who wants to trust their safety to a mob?I question the mental capacity of anyone involved in these mobs. These mobs contain college professors that are willing to cause harm to others because of nothing more than opinion on an issue. These people need some " higher education", but until we have laws we are stuck. You would think in these political situations if law can't respond to protect home owner that common sense would be used in charging.

 

[KSDeputy]

My wife awakened me at 0130 and said there was a puke ringing our doorbell. Puke=criminal, or ne'er do well. I met him at the door, opened it with a .45 in my hand. He sobered up quickly and said "oh God please don't shoot me". He showed signs of being drunk, and I could smell it on his breath. We live in the middle of 8.6 acres, posted, and surrounded by barb wire. I said what do you want, he said his car was in the ditch and he needed help. I said I know who to call to help you, and shut the door. I called the sheriff's office. We watched him climb over the gate and run to the house across the road, and woke them up. The sheriff arrived and arrested him. I had to write a report to get him booked, which I did. I never heard any more about it.

 

[Ziggy2525]

Stricter laws on protesters need passed. To me protesting stops the minute another's rights are violated. These so called protesters are getting away with the same things that would get a cop fired. Citizens have the right to safety. Especially in their homes. Who wants to trust their safety to a mob?I question the mental capacity of anyone involved in these mobs. These mobs contain college professors that are willing to cause harm to others because of nothing more than opinion on an issue. These people need some " higher education", but until we have laws we are stuck. You would think in these political situations if law can't respond to protect home owner that common sense would be used in charging.

I think there are plenty of laws already. We just need political leadership that's willing to enforce them.

 

[rwsmith]

This is exactly what I said.....

Crowds are trying to goad people into making a misstep, then there is hell to pay. Don't fall for it. Keep your head.

 

[Borderboss]

As soon as protesters are on your property, they are trespassing, so call the cops and let them do their job. If they impact the home in any way, report to the cops that trespassers are trying to break into your home. Get the cops working on it.

 

[Jon651]

Unfortunately the problem with gun laws today is that the line between what you could do and what you should do has become very blurry. When does "open carry" cross over into "reckless display"? When does "stand your ground" cross over into "assault with a deadly weapon"? It's not black or white (no pun intended).

Unfortunately no law, rule or regulation can cover all possibilities or situations (nor would you want it to try), and it is incidents like this one that show us how many folks just can't tell that they've stepped over the line when they are under stress.

Since everybody else gets their day (and their say) in court then I'm going to reserve judgment on this guy until he gets his day as well.

 

[Doug M.]

This is another political charging similar to the St. Louis couple, by an attorney should not have a law license or be in a position to misuse his authority in that fashion. Sadly, the charging attorney is the AG of California, and he hates decent people, guns, etc. He is much like the AG here, who I loathe.

 

[johngalt]

As soon as protesters are on your property, they are trespassing, so call the cops and let them do their job. If they impact the home in any way, report to the cops that trespassers are trying to break into your home. Get the cops working on it.

Unfortunately the police have been told to stand down in many cities. Looting and rioting has been going on unchecked in Chicago since the beginning of the summer. What do you do when your complaints are ignored because the police are prohibited from enforcing the law?

 

[Richard Simmons]

As I understand it, at least here in VA unless your property is posted or an individual has been informed verbally or in writing, simply being on someone's property without permission is not "trespassing".