Could these boxes have been for the guns the dealer had on the table?
Another gunshow etiquette question
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carpriver
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"was it your table?
I don't get involved in other people's drama , if it's not my booth or what he's doing doesn't directly affect me MMOB"
I think that's the problem; No one want to get involved. We let bad behavior continue.
I don't get involved in other people's drama , if it's not my booth or what he's doing doesn't directly affect me MMOB"
I think that's the problem; No one want to get involved. We let bad behavior continue.
That's OK Smoke, if you're not poking around in someone else's stuff, no problem. If I have a table next to or across from one where someone is poking around under someone's table, and I haven't seen you around there, or if you are perhaps handling a gun that the owner hasn't seen you pick up and are, say, abusing the merchandise. You may get a notice from me. By what authority? By the authority that I am an American man of good character and decent morality,(usually) and I will try to look out for my neighbor. Shows can be a long haul, and the guys behind the tables have to go away now and then for a few minutes. You tell me it's NOMB, I tell you, it is now, what about it? Your move.
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I keep doing what I'm doing and dare you to try and stop me.
Do you see the situation escalating and heading into "this is not going to end well" territory?
ETA Seriously what are you going to do when the guy turns around, throws the entire box at you and dares you to step to him? Before you answer remember that you're here because you stuck your nose in something that wasn't your business in the first place
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Ok I understand your position on this, but what are you going to do if the guy does not walk away and continues? Are you going to further intervene and try to stop him? What next when he cusses you out? So what if he took the boxes out, he was going to have to try and pay for them so let the table proctor school him, not you. Was he just going to walk off with them? Well, that's another story, but just being stupid and rude was his only crime so why rush in to stop him, embarrass him or insinuate he was up to something no good....just my two cents.
Thank you for the Correction; I missed that. I will delete that particular post.
SCEVA, better look again, the OP is Pharmer, not Pharman and he was at the Orlando FL gunshow, which he calls the O-show, not the OGCA you referred to.
zzzippper
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I would not get involved but neither would I dig under the table cloth, anymore than I would walk behind the table or a gun store counter.
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I had a table at a gun show selling a few items. A nice old guy carrying a pristine early Marlin 39 (octagonal barrel, case hardening, etc.) walked by the table next to me and the vender called out, "What do you have there?"
After the "not worth much" typical vendor BS, the old guy let the rifle go for $200. I wanted to tell the old man, "Hey, your rifle's worth at least $1500. Don't sell it for less!"
The vendor and his pal were laughing at how they screwed the guy. I should've intervened on the old guy's behalf but didn't get involved. Shame on me.
I had a table at a gun show selling a few items. A nice old guy carrying a pristine early Marlin 39 (octagonal barrel, case hardening, etc.) walked by the table next to me and the vender called out, "What do you have there?"
After the "not worth much" typical vendor BS, the old guy let the rifle go for $200. I wanted to tell the old man, "Hey, your rifle's worth at least $1500. Don't sell it for less!"
The vendor and his pal were laughing at how they screwed the guy. I should've intervened on the old guy's behalf but didn't get involved. Shame on me.
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Smoke and moralem, no I don't see a problem or this escalating, this is a gun show and that ain't happening here. Security is on the way, they will sort it out. Jails are full of people who say they were just stupid and rude.
With all due respect, what I'm hearing you say is you'll get involved if there's someone there to back you up.
I do security for a living and it's been my experience that people couldn't care less about some security guard, they're going to do what they want.
Also based on my experience I absolutely DO see this escalating
if for no other reason than because YOU'VE already escalated it.
I'm not going to change you any more than you're going.to change the guy across the aisle so if you think the hassle is worth it that's your call
Let us know how that works out for you
I do security for a living and it's been my experience that people couldn't care less about some security guard, they're going to do what they want.
Also based on my experience I absolutely DO see this escalating
if for no other reason than because YOU'VE already escalated it.
I'm not going to change you any more than you're going.to change the guy across the aisle so if you think the hassle is worth it that's your call
Let us know how that works out for you
Amen brother!
A little presumptions on your part as to what the guy was up don't you think? He was looking in a box for goodness sake, now if he was running off with it that is a different story. And the situation had already escalated when he decided to chastise him regarding his behavior. To each there own.
Smoke, I read your thread about your job and the woman trespassing. When I said "called into line", I'm being polite and not trying to threaten someone. I'm not putting my hand on them or shaking my finger at them. It would be like " The owner will be able to help you in a minute. Or " you might ask before you go through someone's stuff." I always ask before I pick up anything on a table, whether there's sign or not. If they want to be ugly, with me, because I was concerned about them, OK, Security is on the way. At a Texas gun show, you don't see much aggression. I've seen rude, uncaring, and stupid, but I don't think I've ever seen someone get in someone's face. Cops are usually commonplace at the shows. If some hothead wants to fight, they can oblige them.
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This may or may not add to this discussion. This past weekend, somebody stole a Smith and Wesson 66-4 (2 1/2") right from the table at a local gun show. The vendor has a description of a couple of possible suspects, but they were apparently gone from the show by the time he noticed the handgun missing.
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Being a vendor goes both ways. I don't like people trying to rip me off and I don't try to rip people off. There's usually some negotiating.
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One never knows what ones going to get if they reach under a strangers table?
Around here--since its always so warm,you just might get a "'friendly"" bite from a brown recluse.
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What grates my nerves the most are--people letting their little kids run around with no supervision. Two shows ago--I was in a hurry to get outside to catch my ride.I had two guns I just got--one brand-spanking new.Two kids running around almost made me lose grip on my two guns and other stuff I had in my hands.The kids mammy--was nearby and said nothing though she saw what happened. The othr thing that saws into my bones--is when one person takes up the entire aisle space by standing center and looking one side or the other--fully knowing they are holding up the convoy behind them.
Other than that--or the person with babies in a three-baby-stroller long stroller--taking up the entire ailse--not much negative happens at the shows I go to.
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Luckily,ive never seen that happen at any of the Robstown shows. Besides--there are loads of LEOs from various agencies and in uniform--who manouver their ways through all the aisles,so not much opportunity for someone to do something stupid. Also,loads of military strolling through there as well. Last show I went to--I saw three Judges as well.
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There are at least two to three sbags who set up at our show every show.If I see someone walking around--and most do to get shed of their rifle etc--I always steer them to Heavy, Gary ,Brad etc--to give the guy a good understanding what he has and what its valued at and what to expect for offers. Usually when I see someone selling or trying to sell--I dont step in the way of the dealer at his table but do casually mention around-about price for their item.That way, I force a potential jerk into being a bit more honest without upsetting the apple cart.
I had not had time to try that with a guy about eighteen months ago. This guy just chucked down about twenty five hundred for a""black rifle"" not knowing he over-paid by about nineteen hundred. He looked at me grinning like a baboon--and also bragged about getting four boxes of ammo for another three hundred dollars. I told him--for the one box of each caliber he had--that at that same time--I could get all four boxes of ammo at Academy for less than sixty dollars. His grin went to frown in a lightning quick instant. I told him he should have done his homework before jumping in with both feet..
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No. Guy had 4 tables piled high with boxes: "$5 each (there are pix of the $5 boxes in my Orlando GS report), anything on table" nothing else. The boxes in question were more like $50+ (Woodgrain box for Colt?,Red one piece Box for Ruger Blackhawk, 2 piece Box for nickel S&Wetc) , desirable at least and certainly as nice as I have seen here for more$.
And as far as "no such thing as gun show etiquette," I try to behave myself because folks make assumptions based on behavior. Most folks couldn't care less. I certainly learned to mind my own business from this thread. Joe
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In Texas, Coon fingering thru other peoples stuff is a good way to wind up in the E.R.
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