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This is the truth. I am attaching a short study that appeared yesterday in the Journal of the American Medical Association. It is very readable and I have highlighted the essential conclusions on page 2.

Conducted in a large homeless shelter in Boston among all residents (n = 408) 88% had no symptoms of COVID-19. Yet when they tested all 408 they found that 36% were positive for the virus. CDC estimates that there 10 times more people who are positive for the virus but display no symptoms than those who do. That means that while we know there are about a million people in the U.S. who have symptoms and have tested positive, there are probably 10 million more who have no symptoms but are also positive, meaning they can infect others.

Worse still, there are two studies out of two hospitals in Wuhan that show that the stuff doesn't just drop to the ground, and that these small particles, called aerosols, can hang in the air for two or three hours. So, let's say an asymptomatic carrier sneezes or coughs in your local Walmart and then goes home. You come along an hour later, walk through the viral cloud he left, and presto, you've got it too. For most, that may lead to only a mild case, but for many -- those over 60 or with underlying conditions like heart disease, COPD, or kidney problems, that's a potentially lethal situation.

COVID-19 is no joke, and the best minds out there -- Fauci, etc. -- are predicting a second wave in the fall, e.g., late October, say three weeks before the election.

Take precautions every time you leave home, and fasten your seat belts. There is a second wave coming and if history is any guide, it is likely to be worse than the first.

We need universal testing now, 100% contact tracing, and keeping the lock-downs going in places where infection rates are not rapidly decreasing, which is virtually every place in the country.
 

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I believe I read about a California study that said the same thing - there are probably 10X the number of people we know about who had the virus without symptoms, that we don't know about.

Seems the British have developed a vaccine which seems to be effective on monkeys, and they are doing a large double-blind test on humans at present. They are so confident it will work that a drug manufacturer in India is already producing the vaccine in quantity.
 
I believe I read about a California study that said the same thing - there are probably 10X the number of people we know about who had the virus without symptoms, that we don't know about.

Seems the British have developed a vaccine which seems to be effective on monkeys, and they are doing a large double-blind test on humans at present. They are so confident it will work that a drug manufacturer in India is already producing the vaccine in quantity.

This is the group at Oxford University. See: In Race for a Coronavirus Vaccine, an Oxford Group Leaps Ahead - The New York Times

The California study was a random cross-section of LA county.
 
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It's all in he Jeans

I believe being of European Descent, Norwegian/German and
having "O" Negitive blood has something to do with lower
infection rate.

In the Journal of South Dakota Medical Common Sense it has
been proven; Survival will be the Fittest (without any underlying
health problems), the Smartest/Wisest will prevail, and you
don't need Permission to save yourself.

Thank God here in Dacotah Territory we've been practicing
Social Distancing since 2 November 1889.

Also if you listen to and believe to your adversaries you're
going to Fail.

The Best to you, and be Safe out there. Wear a Mask,
Wash Hands often, and have Situational Awareness to
what is going on around you.
 

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Then, there are those that say the antibody tests are not reliable.

Sorry, but, no one is going to force me to get tested, I'm not going to be forced to participate in contact tracing, and I'm not going to be forced to take a vaccine if there ever is one. Not doing it.

BTW, If there's 10x or more infected, that means the death rate isn't anywhere near as advertised.

The economy will not survive another shutdown. If the economy crashes, the WuFlu will be the least of anyone's worries.
 
Our next door neighbor is an ER doc. She and my wife were talking and the topic of plasma donation and testing for antibodies came up. My wife told her about how I was sick the first few weeks in February with symptoms that were a match for COVID-19, and our neighbor was eager for me to get tested and see if I could donate.

I messaged my doctor and he set up a lab test. Went in today and had some blood taken and they sent it to the main lab in Tulsa. Came back negative so I guess I didn't have it after all, assuming that the test is accurate. The results did note that the test is not yet FDA approved so there is still an element of uncertainty. My wife is still not convinced that I did not have it.

Regardless, I feel that the more information available the better.
 
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Then, there are those that say the antibody tests are not reliable.

Sorry, but, no one is going to force me to get tested, I'm not going to be forced to participate in contact tracing, and I'm not going to be forced to take a vaccine if there ever is one. Not doing it.

BTW, If there's 10x or more infected, that means the death rate isn't anywhere near as advertised.

The economy will not survive another shutdown. If the economy crashes, the WuFlu will be the least of anyone's worries.

How bull headed can you get? I won't be tested for my own good or anyone else's good. How wonderfully self centered.

The Supreme Court has previously upheld the states right to quarantine and isolate. Be ironic for you if they isolate those who don't test. LMAO.

You bash the virus gloom and doom and then turn right around and come with your own brand of Gloom and Doom on te economy. So typical

I started this thread on antibody testing. Simply trying to get some kind of facts going. Not trying to troll the antis, the gloom and doomers (economy or virus)

So, lets get back to that and keep it there.
 
My microbiology/virology buddies at Virginia Tech say that this article is a pretty good summary of where we are now. As the scientists learn more and acquire more data, our ability to answer these key questions -- how many people have had the disease without realizing it and how much immunity have they developed -- will improve.

What Can Antibody Testing Really Tell Us About COVID?.

These same folks at Virginia Tech also say that no one has yet developed a vaccine against any of the seven human corona viruses, but that there have been several effective vaccines developed against animal corona viruses. Moreover, the group at Oxford University in the UK did produce a vaccine last year that is effective against SARS-CoV-2 in rhesus monkeys, and they are pushing ahead with the development of a human vaccine against COVID-19 that may be available by September.

I wish we had all the answers now. We don't. But science progresses incrementally, and the picture is not all doom and gloom. In the meantime, hand-washing, social distancing, and continuing the shut-downs are everyone's best protection. Hard news to swallow, but that is the truth. Be patient, be safe.
 
Yes, the old virus will always be there is probably true. But, the our knowledge and ability to fight and treat is increasing and probably faster than any time in medical history. Knowledge is power, whether it= be from testing or experience. Some may have heard the saying "Patience is a virtue". Certainly applies here.
 
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I'm asking questions, making statements and pointing things out. If you don't like it, that's on you. There's always the ignore button.

And, yes, I AM self-centered. I, freely, admit it. Selfish, too.
 
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