Any Real Live Cowboys out there ?

I have good mates in Queensland that worked the big cattle stations (ranches)in North Queensland. The way they did the mustering and drove the cattle was a combination of horseback and helicopter.

My friend,Archie Black ran Kings Plain Station, it was over 1800 sq. miles of tropical Cape York Peninsula. Abandoned for 40 years, it was sold and Archie came over from the Northern Territory to put it right.

The cattle had been wild for generations, living in the scrub, and they had to be gathered and counted and tested for tuberculosis and whatever the ... kind of bug they have down there, driven (droved) to a loading area days away on horseback sometimes then hauled to auction.

I met him and his head stockman, Dave Curtis at the Lions Den Pub (a tin shack in the eastern edge of Kings Plain, near Cooktown) the only watering hole for a very long way.

Dave wound up being best man a few years later when I married my Australian bride, and I was his best man when he got hitched to a Philippina gal but I digress...

Most of the meanest bulls had their OWN herds and they had to be dealt with summarily, sometimes with the .303. (actually, old wild cows were the most deadly)

The men on horseback carried no lasso, but they wore a "bull strap" around their waist. These fellows were Aboriginals and their horses were wild brumbies (what we'd call a mustang) they'd catch and break, saddle and work these scrubby horses. Those fellows would surround and wrastle wild scrub bull and strap the hinds legs together, and leave them dry for a day or two...then the bull would come to water, where we "us whitefellas" had set up the panel pens so we could load the beasts in the trucks. (Converted UniMog six wheel drive things)
The heli-mustering only worked to a degree in the more tropical section and those old bulls would get up under the trees and had t be dealt with by hands.

There's stockmen and drovers and breakers....but no cowboys.
I guess the chopper pilot was a "cowboy", but I had a feeling he'd learned his trade flying low over less friendly territory in the '60s

(Never call an Australian stockman a cowboy. Cowboy is the term for the male child who milks the cow in the barn. That was explained to me right away)

Here's a thing I heard when I lived in Queensland. [ame]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GfvlGFVKZw0[/ame]
 
I have been to a fair number of rodeos in my time living where I do. The Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo were always a great experience. Yeah I went to hear people like George Strait, Charlie Pride, Conway and Loretta, but I always went to the livestock show and I really enjoyed all the rodeo events.

But when it comes to the action of bull riding, saddle bronc, and bare back riding the best was always the Huntsville Prison Rodeo. The inmates were the riders and they really let it all hang out. A broken arm or leg meant a good long rest in the prison hospital. They were truly crazy.
 
I remember my dad pulling out the cactus needles with pliars. :eek:

Been there, done that.. Then you had to let the little ones you couldn't see fester enough that you could dig them out with a pocket knife.

Then there's porkypine quills in critters noses. If you don't get them out they keep working their way deeper and deeper even to the point of blinding or killing them. Never seen one that was grateful when you was done pulling them out though.

Seems like ever thing in this part of the country either bites, stings, sticks, or kicks. It do make for an interesting life, that's for sure.

I remember the tiny ones my dad didn't see. I had to go to a Doctor for those. The back of my leg still itches in that area. The only good thing that happened on that cactus-patch day, was I was lucky I was wearing blue jeans. It mighta been worse.
 
I have been to a fair number of rodeos in my time living where I do. The Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo were always a great experience. Yeah I went to hear people like George Strait, Charlie Pride, Conway and Loretta, but I always went to the livestock show and I really enjoyed all the rodeo events.

But when it comes to the action of bull riding, saddle bronc, and bare back riding the best was always the Huntsville Prison Rodeo. The inmates were the riders and they really let it all hang out. A broken arm or leg meant a good long rest in the prison hospital. They were truly crazy.

Back when I was guardin them, the upper state leaders kinda put a damper on their crazieness..for that purpose of doing time in a rest and rec /hospital/ center. No joke, they ate steak nightly. Anyway, what happened was, the upper leaders took away their steak, so the incidents where hospitalization was needed, was cut back to those who really did have a 'real' accident. Its been 15 years since i left, so it might be like old times again.
 
Here's another'n by Willie. Anyone that doesn't think Willie Nelson is a serious poet just listen to the word. Some of the most powerful lyrics he ever wrote. A true-to-life portrait of a life style and statement of memories of lost childhood and opportunities. I don't think that anyone who ever played cowboys and Indians as a kid or had dreams of growing up to be a cowboy can hear these words and not be touched. I know these lyrics got all over me...very powerful.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMko5LelBdA[/ame]
 
Actually, I did often dream/fantasize about life as a cowboy even into adulthood. That is until I read the book Lonesome Dove. The realism kind of got on top of all the romantic images I'd been accumulating and I hit my knees and said thanks for my city life style. But the fantasy was nice while it lasted. Sigh....
 
Here's another'n by Willie. Anyone that doesn't think Willie Nelson is a serious poet just listen to the word. Some of the most powerful lyrics he ever wrote. A true-to-life portrait of a life style and statement of memories of lost childhood and opportunities. I don't think that anyone who ever played cowboys and Indians as a kid or had dreams of growing up to be a cowboy can hear these words and not be touched. I know these lyrics got all over me...very powerful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMko5LelBdA

Saw the Willie Nelson interview by Dan Rather on Axxs TV. When asked about his achievements Willie said he was OK as a singer, and entertainer, but could hold his own against anybody as a songwriter !
 
I rode two bulls in high school. The first fell with me, the second was a re-ride that I didn't particularly want at the time. (LOL) Been thrown, fallen with and fallen on from horses more times than I have fingers and toes. Worked cattle a few times. Still own a 4 legged mule. Quite a critter. Some of the best men I have ever known were real cowboys. You ride long enough through wilderness or around cattle, you end up with a lot of experience. Some of it from bad experiences.
 
Been around or owned horses most of my life. Wife is a retired farrier. Have brush popped for cattle, moved them around in the mud of a feed lot 😦, worked them in a squeeze chute for sorting, vaccinations, ear tagging, etc. No branding though watched it. Ran a horse ranch for others until they decided to not be absentee owners! Rode the high country of Wyoming for awhile, along the seashore of Oregon, desert of Ca., and other places. Still ride in Iowa, Mn. and the Black Hills. Broke my first bone trying to stay with a horse at 13 y.o., broke my last bones at 56 y.o. plus all of the bangs, contusions, etc. as we still have two. Been bit, kicked, stomped, mashed against fences, and barn walls multiple times by horses and cattle. Been thrown and knocked off by branches, had runaways, rode some downhills and uphills that would take your breath away, some intentional! 😛
Guess what breed? 😙
Ain't no cowboy though, not even a horse whisperer!
 
Side kicks and a new add, horse wrangling.

My bro and I had a sidekick, he cut the fence and rode over on a shetland pony one fine spring morning when we were planting the truck patch. Stopped and talked a little. He rigged a wire gap gate. His dad just traded for the 80 next to us, gave a wino an old logging truck and a big bottle of cheap whisky for it. The whisky may have been the down payment.

He followed us in many adventures on his shetland. One day a feller I knew wanted to sell a crazy thouroughbred for real cheap. He traded his shetland and a few bucks from his Dad for it. It was one of the extrack almost horses from OK. Too slow for the big events and too crazy for anything else. I'll go start a side kick thread.

Horse wrangling. For 2 summers in HS my son worked as a horse wrangle for the largest trail ride in the midwest. It was set up next to a few hundred thousand acres of National forestry. His 1st summer i had a pair of boots, mule skin, nice and new, just started wearing them to work to break them in. I put saddle soap on them every night and had started the neatsfoot, gonna make them last forever.

Before daylight the head feller picked my son up and off he went for the summer. I looked every where for my new boots, they had gone missing. About 6-8 weeks later he showed up in a worn out pair of boots that sorta looked like mine. He wrangled rent a horses for tenderfeet, helped horse owners feed etc, and lived in camp all summer. He got paid but met many young girls who were horse crazy. Just like older folks he appreciated a job with benefits.

On the boots, dejavue, or what goes around comes around. When I was in the 8th grade Dad always had a new pair of Wellington boots in the box under his bed. He wore them to church until broken in and when his dress work boots wore out he would start with the broken in pair. And buy a new pair to break in.

In the 8th grade my feet and Dad's were the same size. His coat was my size too. I always got a new pair of tennis shoes for gym and a pair of worthless dress shoes for school.

One day it was raining or snowing and I wished for a pair of boots, Dad's boots, box and all crawled into my room and jumped on my feet. I wished for a cool leather jacket over the hooded "kids" Sears and Roebuck coat. Dad's WW II Cooper flight coat matched to a T. So Dad went to work, I'd dress up in his finest and go to school putting them up when I got home. Great plan, some of you may remember marbles, you kneel down and it sort of scuffs the toes of your, well Dad's , boots. Not to mention what workup baseball games and sliding in the sand infield does to them. So about spring time just before church Dad went to get his new boots to start breaking them in. I'll tell you this, if the family is time strapped to get to church, church can save your soul.

Dad had time to cool off and I got a long lecture....................really long.

So i'm looking at my new worn out boots on my son and my youthful indiscretion came flooding back. I told him if he had asked I would have bought him a new pair. Well next year he had some freshly oiled and rough mule skin boots.
 
Ok,ok,ok.................
I have to come clean.

You asked if I ever rode a Bull................

The answer is no........ but...................

there was a time when I would give them a ride...............

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There's a parody of the Jennings/Nelson song. Its done by Alvin and the Chipmunks. I had the album as a kid and the cover had Alvin dressed up I think as whats-his-face? in: Urban Cowboy.
 
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I'm not sure real cowboys consider all bull riders to be real cowboys.

The song you mentioned was big on the radio, when my Dad was dieing. After it came on the radio, he said it was BS, he said. "I'm dieing, I have no regrets in life, and the last thing I want to do is ride a damn bull."

I took him shooting on a Wednesday, he went to the hospital on Thursday, & was dead on Friday.
 
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Bought a pair of Wellington style bull hide boots several years ago and they were the hardest,toughest,meanest boots I'ver ever had the misfortune to own. Tried breaking the boots in for a couple months until my feets couldn't take it anymore and gave them away to some other poor sucker.:rolleyes::eek:
 
I remember helpin' Jim Shoulders crawl down on a bull named Dennis the Menace at the Denver Stock Show. He couldn't get there himself.

He took a "dead man's wrap" on his riggin'.

He rode one of the nastiest bulls in the business for 8 seconds. Got himself unlaced and fell on the ground.

We went out, picked him up and carried him back behind the chutes. He was standin' there on his crutches when they announced that he had won the bull ridin'.

A radio guy came up with a mike and asked him how he could stand to do what he had just done. He said "I cry all the way to the bank" and hobbled off.
 
Had something similiar happen to me. I was at summer camp. They had horses and the group I was with went riding one day. All was well until we started home. The big brute I was on wanted in the barn and he lit out for it as fast as he could go. I was yelling and pulling on the reins, but nothing an 11 year old could do slowed him down. The barn kept getting closer and closer and the lintel kept getting lower and lower. I figured he was going to scrape me off so I bailed just before he went through the door. It hurt when I lit, but not as much as that lintel would have. The guy leading the ride was petrified: he thought I'd been scraped off. I told him no but I was through with horses. Figured they were hazardous to my health and haven't been on one since.

My grandpaw had a Horse just so us kids could ride around
the pasture on it when we came to visit. His name was Thunder.
Thunder got to be getting on in age a bit and every time
one of us older (heavier) boys saddled him up for a ride he
got to where he would let us get on no problem but then he'd
head right for the fence to try and scrape us off.
I quit riding Thunder after that. :D:D:D

Chuck
 
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My sister had found a horse some years back and called me to come see him.They had just built a house,then she bought this guy and didn't have money for tack.So we rode him with a halter and a dog leash [emoji1] Great little horse,think right and he would cut right.My brother in law thought this was pretty cool,but he needed his own.The last horse he had ridden threw him and he broke his arm.Dave finds an appy at an auction and buys it.Seems pretty calm.As the days pass that horse gets really twitchy.Sis starts needling him about buying a doped up horse [emoji12]Dave can't stand for that and after a few refreshments,gets it saddled.He broke his other arm...
 
My dream was to be a bull rider, to me there is nothing more beautiful than the ballet when man and bull are one. Have many photos and got watch a man ride a bull that had never been rode. 8 seconds, then after the buzzer fan the bull with his hat, for an additional 4 seconds or so then just bailed out - seemed like an hour. It was absolutely gorgeous! The bull and man received a standing ovation that lasted some time.

Tried it a couple of times but I am built wrong and did not make it much past the gate. Also did not have anyone to teach me.
 
Since the OP brought up bullriding, when was the first bull ridden?
Why was the first bull ridden?
I understand bronc riding, calf roping, team penning, team roping, cutting events, etc. as ranching activities, but bullriding?
Strictly a rodeo activity?
Does anybody ride a bull or steer on a ranch?
Does anybody do steer wrestling on a ranch?
 
I believe most sports started out as fun or necessity. Bull riding probably started before man started milking cows or when they used them to pull as draft animals.

Horns are handy to hold on to when working an animal and why not?
Probably started with man on foot, then from a horse.

A man working alone horse back knows a life much different than what you see in the rodeo. Rodeos are athletes on race horses, there is money to be made and naturally spent, people doing what they want to do, living a dream!
 
Somebody please 'splain me sometin'. I have been to a lot of rodeos and have always been amazed and curious about one thing. Why would anyone want to get on a creature that weighs over a ton that wants nothing more than to get you on the ground and horn you and stomp your lifeless body into the dirt?

I guess it comes under the category of extreme sports. Must be the challenge or some such. But the difference in my mind is that a mountain or a rapid river etc may offer a challenge but they are predictable. You know the level of danger going in. But a bull, well, that is a lot different. A mountain or a river etc can't hate you but a bull can and does hate you. you can see it in there eyes.

I don't wear hats but if I did I'd tip my hat to all bull riders. Obviously a tough bunch.
 
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