Any SW99 fans?

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Last range session my friend brought his Walther 99. I was having a miserable day trying to hit anything until I tried his 99. Thing was like a laser beam in my hands.

Fast forward to today. New gun shop opened up so I wandered in not expecting much. Lightly used SW99 caught my eye. No box and only one mag bit for $300 I figured why not. Did a quick range trip. Fifty rounds of Blazer aluminum ran without a hitch. Decently accurate as well. Quite happy

Any other fans out there? Need to find some mags.
 
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I have the Walther P99SA. Had the compact and sold it :-(. One of my all-time favorite guns. P99 and PPQ M1 mags will work.
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My friend has two Walthers, a 9 and a 40. He swears by them. Kind of an odd duck ( the pistol not my friend) but I have a weakness for unusual guns. Actually my friend is a bit of an odd duck as well.
 
I have a 1999 P99 and a 2004 SW99 - both in 9mm. I find them to be virtually identical in most respects.
 

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After handling the P99, I picked one up and became a fan.

My old dept. use to issue the SW99 in .40. I never had one, but I don't think they were cop proof. They went to the Glock 22 fairly quickly.

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I've never owned or shot a Walther handgun. I've only heard great things! I've had my eyes on the Creed, and the new PDP.


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I should have one by Saturday that a member here sold me last week. It's only half a Walther: Magnum Research MR9 -- Walther frame and Magnum Research slide ala the SW99. And it will be my second one. I sold the first as it was "redundant" with some other guns I had at the time and now I realize I was pretty dopey to get rid of it.
 
I have a Walther P99 first generation pre-AS and a SW99 in 45ACP. Both are favored since they're striker fired DA/SA pistols with some cool features.
 
I have a Walther P99c and a Magnum Research MR9 like Redcoat just bought. I also have a PPQ which is like a SAO P99. Good guns with an outstanding single action trigger and a long heavy da trigger. No experience with the SW99 but I do use SW99 mags in my MR9 and P99c.
 
Have a 4 digit serial number 1997 P99 and love it. Got 16 round mags for it and for the size 16+1 is a lot. One note is I carry it IWB and the finish tarnished after the 2nd time carrying it. Oh well recommend them. I always as the SW99 just being a cheaper P99 clone.
 
I'm a revolver guy but when it comes to 9mm pistols I love the Walther P99/PPQ platform and the collaborations Walther had with guns like the S&W 99 and Magnum Research MR9. All of these pistols have great ergonomics and feel like they were molded for your hand. Even better with a set of Talon or Traction grips.
 
I have the P99AS and I'm very happy with it.

I'm glad that it's southpaw friendly with the ambidextrous mag release lever (which I prefer over a push button release).

I also like its short reset and 2nd strike capability, unlike most striker fired pistols.

A great shooter IMHO.
 

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I'd go for the Walther version.

My local PD had S&W 99s. I don't recall the caliber. They had issues with multiple handguns and transitioned away from the 99 quickly.

I am/was friends with one of their Range officers, he was a comepetion shooter, SWAT guy and big time S&W guy. He had issues with/tested several of the bad pistols and mentioned triggers going dead. He knew how to shoot and was a gun guy, so I am confident that it wasn't user error.

The P99 is a cool design, and everyone I know who owns a Walther loves theirs.
 
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I became interested in the SW99's after attending my (first) SW99/P99 armorer class. I ordered one of the standard size SW9940's.

I carried an issued SW9940 for a few years, too, and as an armorer I helped support a small number of them (50, plus some owner by other instructors and shooters). I've fired a few ten's of thousands of rounds through them (since the agency was supplying the ammo most of the time :) ).

Once S&W engineers helped Walther diagnose an "early slide stop" issue that had been reported in the early P99 .40 and SW9940's, and Mec-Gar redesigned the magazine body (at the slide stop notch cutout) and the follower, it seemed like a pretty nice and reliable model line.

I ordered a compact version SW999C after another armorer class. It experienced an occasional light-strike issue in DA (only, not in SA). I discussed it with the smith for S&W's Walther America company, who told me he'd seen the same thing in some P99's, and told me how to change the height of the trigger bar guide post to correct the issue. Once that was done, I put many thousands more rounds through the little Compact. Neat 3.5"/10+1 9mm pistol. :)

For the sake of trivia, in the Anti-Stress (DA/SA) 99's there's a "timing" that has to be achieved and balanced between the DA and SA striker travel and safety block engagement. The trigger bar guide controls the release of the striker by the trigger bar, and the dimension of the trigger bar guide post is critical to achieving this "timing". There are some different dimension (height) guide posts available to achieve the correct timing of the trigger bar's release of the striker. In later 99 models, and then the PPQ, the trigger bar guide post was changed to an adjustable lever design (which required a change of the frame and sear housing block dimensions). The new lever could be adjusted via a screw, versus replacing the guide post with another one. I was told the PPQ required no adjustment, since it's a single action only gun and doesn't have to deal with the "timing" of both a SA and DA trigger pull/striker release.

I eventually went through a 3rd armorer class for the SW99/990L guns. Personally, I never cared for the 990L's (think P99 QA, but without the field-strip button to decock the striker), and much preferred the AS version. Still do.

My compact SW999C is such a sweet handling small gun, with such a great trigger in both DA & SA, that it usually allows me to easily produce tighter groups, faster, than when using my 3913, 3913TSW or G26. (And I like all of those other guns a LOT.) :)

As an armorer it's not as simple as the Glock, and in some ways a bit easier to work on than a M&P.

I liked that the 99's extractor and striker assemblies could be removed independently of each other (for cleaning), but the extractor removal & installation involving the removal of 2 different plungers (safety block and the actual extractor plunger) could require some attention on the part of an armorer. ;)

I've posted a fair bit of my experiences and opinions regarding the SW99's in other threads, and I don't have the time to revisit it all here.

Suffice to say the SW99 and P99 in AS configuration remain a couple of my all-time favorite plastic pistol lines. Very under appreciated for what they offered.

FWIW, someone from the S&W factory told me during an armorer class that the frame and all the frame parts/assemblies, and all the slide parts aside from the bare slide and barrel (both made by S&W), were provided by Walther and assembled by S&W.

There were some minor differences in how S&W wanted the frames molded. S&W through-hardened heat treated their slides and barrels, while we were told Walther used the traditional European method of zone-tempering at high stress spots. Both companies used different trademarked versions of nitrocarburizing surface hardening methods (Tenifer v. Melonite).

Also, S&W decided to use the optional extractor spring (heavier) in the SW99's at some point, and in all the 990L's ... which was also the same spring used for the mag catch assembly. Initially we were told that if we encountered any extractor/ejection issues, to simply replace the standard extractor spring with the optional one.

Oddly enough, it was when one of our people brought in a P99 with extraction issues that I first used the heavier spring. I called S&W to confirm the same optional extractor spring could be used in the P99's, and resolved the owner's problem by replacing the original spring with the optional heavier one. Then, I had the same thing happen with another cop's personally-owned SW999 (full-size 9). I replaced the original (9mm) extractor spring with the optional heavier spring, and everything ran fine. I think Walther later listed the heavier spring as a standard .40 extractor spring, but I'd have to dig through one of the later armorer manuals (from Walther) to see if I'm remembering it right.

Great guns, though. Without meaning to step on anyone's toes, I was a bit disappointed when I was using a T&E SW9945. It just didn't have the same feel as the slightly smaller SW99's. I didn't buy one of those (but I bought a M&P 45 in '08, when they were available for armorer purchase).
 
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Do anyone know where you can find the backstraps for the SW99, mine have turned white and are falling apart......(I have never seen that before)
 
Ran another hundred or so rounds of Blazer aluminum through a couple days ago. One failure to extract which I blame on aluminum ammo. Was shooting steel and was knocking them down with regularity. Seems to be accurate, points better for me than a Glock.
 
Do anyone know where you can find the backstraps for the SW99, mine have turned white and are falling apart......(I have never seen that before)

Walther should have P99 back straps that fit.
 
I really like my early model .40 P99 Walther. The backstraps are still good (knock on wood...).
It's a real laser for me, but I'm not happy with the aftermarket sights that I have on it. They get bumped easy so I don't really trust it for anything but a range toy. I wish I had picked up a set of 10 8 Performance sights that worked for the PPQ as well. But they are discontinued and out of stock. I have them on one of my 1911s, and my G20. They are excellent for me.
Otherwise, no stoppages yet (with 12 round mags, the 14 rounders I have had a few failure to go into battery on the first round in the mag- I sling shot the slide) but only approximately 500 rounds through it by me, I got it used for a really good price, it looked carried a lot but shot little.
I would like to get a 9mm some day...
 
Yep, and funny timing for the thread. I've had a full size 9mm for a couple years. Only paid $260 OTD for it and it was definitely a bargain. I always wanted one of the 45's too, but could never find one; until yesterday. Walked into a shop on a whim and there in the case for $425, a like new SW99 in 45 ACP! No box but 2 magazines, and just a few small, light rust spots (that came off with some CLP and scrubbing). I think it was a pretty good deal. I'm excited to shoot it.

Anyone know how many 45's were made? I've read that they are pretty rare and only had a production run of about a year toward the end of the platform's run.
 

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