anybody know if the pistol barrel will fit in rifle
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oberon
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Huh?
.....I suspect I missed something.......
.....I suspect I missed something.......
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Possibly. Do you have your short-barreled rifle legal paperwork and tax paid?
CrazyFingers
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Anybody know if the OP will fit in a federal prison cell?
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*Psst...If you are aware of and plan to comply with NFA requirements for an SBR, you really should mention that in your vague post on an internet discussion forum, otherwise people might assume the worst.
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*Psst...If you are aware of and plan to comply with NFA requirements for an SBR, you really should mention that in your vague post on an internet discussion forum, otherwise people might assume the worst.
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Usually it's innocent until proven guilty but it seems that everyone here is assuming the OP is ready to commit a federal crime by asking a simple question.
Yes, it will fit. You'll likely have to buy a complete 15-22P model in order to get the upper unless you want to modify your existing or new upper/barrel which would then require the tax stamp before doing.
Yes, it will fit. You'll likely have to buy a complete 15-22P model in order to get the upper unless you want to modify your existing or new upper/barrel which would then require the tax stamp before doing.
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Like others, I'll just reiterate that if you're planning on making an SBR, to go the legal route to do so.
As far as pistol barrel availability...seems unlikely. There weren't a whole lot made and I doubt anyone is giving theirs up. Best best is to buy another 15-22 rifle and get the barrel cut down by someone competent enough to do so.
As far as pistol barrel availability...seems unlikely. There weren't a whole lot made and I doubt anyone is giving theirs up. Best best is to buy another 15-22 rifle and get the barrel cut down by someone competent enough to do so.
RedNeck Jim
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Asking the question is not the problem but if anyone were to actually do this, without the proper stamp, well that is a federal crime. Since many folks read these threads, I am glad to see others bring up the requirements... especially since the OP didn't mention if he already had a stamp or knew that he needed one. No one here wants to see anyone go to jail due to lack of knowledge of the federal laws.
You positive about that? I know you can't go ahead & shorten a rifle barrel & have it in your possession, along with your rifle, without a stamp. I would sure want to make sure you could legally have in your possession both a rifle & the pistol variant (short) barrel at the same time... without a stamp.
I don't know the answer but know I don't want to mess around with federal laws. Seems to me this advice would be similar to telling someone it would be OK to go ahead & make your own suppressor, and then wait for the stamp to put it on... which is of course illegal.
Bullzaye
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Actually, discussing the idea of installing a pistol barrel onto a rifle, without any accompanying discussion of the legalities (or illegalities) of such actions could be considered conspiracy to commit a federal crime. I'm not certain about SBRs specifically, but I'm fairly certain that people have been prosecuted for such seemingly innocent conversations concerning the parts necessary to convert a particular gun to select-fire and/or FA.
Therefore, I'd say that discussing such a thing on a public forum, even if the OP had no such intention to break any laws, is a bad idea.
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I should have said IF the 15-22P is legal to own in his state then he certainly can buy the firearm and have it in his possession. That would make it two separate firearms (15-22 and 15-22P). I never said said to buy a barrel, chop it down and then sit on it until his paperwork comes back.
I would hope that the OP would be familiar with his states/federal gun laws and have any required paperwork before proceeding with any purchases or modifications.
I would hope that the OP would be familiar with his states/federal gun laws and have any required paperwork before proceeding with any purchases or modifications.
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Zax
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Who says he lives in the USA? 
RedNeck Jim
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But the OP asked about just the barrel... not the pistol and asked if anyone had one for sale. Your advise to buy it now appeared to be illegal to me, since the OP only asked about buying a barrel. My intent is to simply make sure no one does something illegal here.
Thank you all for taking time to answer my question. I would like to add that I completely I am aware and I understand the laws regarding short barrel rifle especially in Washington State....which is the law simply states you can't have one.
How can some of you guys/gals assume that I plan on breaking the law based on my inquiry? Such irresponsible comments. ..you should be ashamed of yourself. thank you to the ones that truly are looking out as you provided warnings.
With that said, I have a suppressor that I will permanently attach which will lengthen my barrel to 16.5"
How can some of you guys/gals assume that I plan on breaking the law based on my inquiry? Such irresponsible comments. ..you should be ashamed of yourself. thank you to the ones that truly are looking out as you provided warnings.
With that said, I have a suppressor that I will permanently attach which will lengthen my barrel to 16.5"
You need to read up on United States v. Thompson-Center Arms Company - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and also constructive intent.
Yes, having a short barrel and all the other parts available to assemble it into a complete rifle could be constructive intent. But if he also has a long barrel so that the rifle could be assembled legally, then there is no constructive intent (which appears to be the case, as he was asking to purchase an additional barrel).
RedNeck Jim
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I'm not gonna try to understand legalese in such a court case. I'm a printer... not a lawyer. I only stated it appeared what he was considering was illegal. Close enough that I personally would not attempt anything like this and would still recommend others from not doing so. I don't have the resources to fight the federal government in a legal fight. They have, or at least can spend, more money than I can in an argument.
It's generally been considered a risk not worth taking in the NFA world, to possess a short barrel for a rifle you have if you don't have a registered SBR. How hard would it be to prove constructive intent? I'm not sure, but having a non SBR rifle and a short barrel could potentially imply a lot more intent than having any old rifle and a hacksaw.
Per the ATF SBR/SBS FAQ (http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/national-firearms-act-short-barreled-rifles-shotguns.html):
There is also an ATF ruling talking about converting a pistol to a rifle and back to a pistol. (http://www.atf.gov/files/regulations-rulings/rulings/atf-rulings/atf-ruling-2011-4.pdf)
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^^^hence why I recommended buying the 15-22p so you technically have two separate firearms but the capability to swap uppers once paperwork was received. Plus, I'm pretty sure in order to obtain a pistol barrel you have to buy the entire firearm since they are not manufactured anymore.
Nframecollector
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What pistol, what rifle?
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