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Guys,

One of my friends got a hold of my pistol and thought he was Clint Eastwood. He tried to field strip it and has messed it up way past my knowledge. I can not get to the sear deactivator and have no idea how to fix this. I know I can take it to a gunsmith but I am broke and cant afford to have them fix it for me. Any ideas or tips would be greatly appreciated.
 

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mesa good point :D and ill see if that video can help me. RobzGuns i agree
 
If not a quick trip to the local gun shop could help? I know my local guys are always willing to answer questions and help in these types of situations.
 
Try this... insert a empty magazine and pull back & see if that releases the slide. You have have to work the slide back and/or do some jiggling, but that should work

What I think happened is instead of using the sear deactivator, he pulled the trigger to get the slide off and it jammed up inside. Inserting a empty mag should reset the sear.
 
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CaptRon,

I tried that and it still wont release. Scared its something even more serious
 
CaptRon956 said:
Try this... insert a empty magazine and pull back & see if that releases the slide. You have have to work the slide back and/or do some jiggling, but that should work

What I think happened is instead of using the sear deactivator, he pulled the trigger to get the slide off and it jammed up inside. Inserting a empty mag should reset the sear.
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I realize that this didn't work, but I'm going to add one step to it, after you put the magazine(empty) into the pistol, put the front end of the slide on the end of the work bench (or table) with the barrel projecting past it. Then push hard on the lower section of the grip until it pushes back to the cutout for the takedown lever. You may have to take a "whack" at it. The magazine should engage the slide lock. I've used this method to free up locked slides for many years. good luck.
 
I had trouble pasting the url so if you can go to

smithandwessonforums (add www before .com after)
append to the above url
forum/s-w-semi-auto-pistols-forum/12183-new-owner-m-p45-problem-2.html
 
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Bkreutz said:
I realize that this didn't work, but I'm going to add one step to it, after you put the magazine(empty) into the pistol, put the front end of the slide on the end of the work bench (or table) with the barrel projecting past it. Then push hard on the lower section of the grip until it pushes back to the cutout for the takedown lever. You may have to take a "whack" at it. The magazine should engage the slide lock. I've used this method to free up locked slides for many years. good luck.
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That is the only thing I can think of that should free it up. If the magazine slides up & locks in place, thats good. Then I would pull back on the slide and work the trigger, Its gonna take some serious jiggle action. I still think that if you work the trigger back & forth while pulling back on the slide repeatedly, but with authority, that should free it up...

I hope that helps...
 
I'm trying to figure out exactly what happened... looks like the slide is not all the way back, and I guess it won't move forward.


Try getting a bent metal pick, and use that to reach the sear deactivation lever. The bend will allow you to get around and under the slide breech to where the lever is.
 
Marine6680,
I tried to do that but I cant reach the sear deactivation lever. I may try to come up from that mag slot with metal hook of some sort and pull down and see if that helps.

BKreutz,
Just tried that but I cant get the slide to come all the way back. Im trying not to force it too much. Should I try and work the trigger at the same time? Maybe free something up in the back.

Thanks for all the help guys
 
This is a reason you should start with a Revolver and NOT show your guns to your idiot friends.

Also a good reason to NOT own a gun with a funky take down design.
 
I dealt with a couple of these a few years ago when I worked at a gun store.... I had a special tool (huge paperclip straightened out, with a 90 degree bend at the end, and a 3-4mm "hook"), but I cannot for the life of me remember what I yanked on to fix it.... unfortunately i sold my M&P, so I don't have one to look at, but I think the fix was tripping the recoil spring back over the takedown lever... If I recall correctly, trying to put the takedown lever "up" it was under spring tension no? It is sticking in my head that that was the problem, but you can solve it with patience, paperclip (through the frame/slide gap), and a few minutes of observation....

PS tell that friend "hands *(&^*^% off (^(&%^*&^".... what a tool!!!


Sorry, my memory is so crappy I can barely remember my name, wish I could remember what I did to fix them..... From what I remember, this happens as the takedown lever gets turned "up" when putting the slide back on, allowing the recoil spring to bind, I don't think it has to do with the trigger group at all...

I have been playing around with another gun to try and duplicate..... Try to wiggle/pull your guide rod ... specifically try to get it to sit up into the groove on the barrel, by bending the muzzle end downwards..... don't force/bend anything..... light pressure, gradually increasing, but don't crank on it.....
 
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Autococker07,

Yeah im trying to find a strong enough hook to attempt that. I was trying a fishing hook and needle nose pliers earlier but just can get that grip to pull down the lever.

And dont worry that guy wont answer my phone calls and hasn't come around the house today
 
mmesa005 said:
I had trouble pasting the url so if you can go to

smithandwessonforums (add www before .com after)
append to the above url
forum/s-w-semi-auto-pistols-forum/12183-new-owner-m-p45-problem-2.html
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I cant get the URL to work. Do you know what the title of the posting is? I can search the forums for it
 
If I paste the 2 lines it works. If not the post is 12183 smithandwessonforums don't forget the www and the .com before then after. Hope this makes sense?

Thread title is Thread: New owner of M&P45 with problem.................
 
Based on the pics from the OP, I think I have your solution.

I believe the feed ramp is wedged under the trigger block. Here's a pic with the slide removed explaining what I mean:
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Here's what it looks like with the slide on:
Feed%20Ramp%20Wedged%20w%20Slide_zps9tflrtnx.jpg


The fix is to give the slide a firm tap on the rear, like this:
Wedged%20Feed%20Ramp%20fix_zpsbntx1fhs.jpg



By doing this you'll release the slide to chamber/feed ramp friction. If you try to push on the muzzle end, you'll only wedge it tighter. It may take a pretty good whack to get it loose.

When I duplicated your issue, I had the recoil spring out. Since your recoil spring is in there, you may have to hold the barrel as you strike the rear of the slide. Otherwise it might just wedge itself back in there as you try to dislodge it.

Let me know how this works.
 
Rastoff,

I tried that and the slide moved about an inch forward. Think you're right about the feed ramp. I've attached some pictures that show the progress but now it is locked up again. Im trying not to beat the thing to death but just a simple tap loosened that slide up a lot.
 

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I've tried this with and without the magazine and it keeps stoping about 1/2" too short. I have no idea what it could be catching on but I am scared to beat on the slide and bend whatever it maybe catching on.
 
Guys,

I got it fixed. The sear deactivator was holding it back so I used a fishing hook and a pair of needle nose pliers to free it up then tapped on the back of the slide and it came right off. Thank you all the help. If you're ever in Eastern NC I'll buy ya a beer :D
 
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