Anyone ever have to actually draw on someone?
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torrejon224
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Many times before I retired and once since then. To make a long story short I was standing in my driveway with my German Shepard about midnight when a pickup pulled up, the driver stopped and looked at me briefly then pulled away, he jammed the truck in reverse and came right at me!! Both the dog and I went to opposite sides, I drew my 1911 and would have shot but realized that the home across the street was in the line of fire. Gave a full description and plate # to the local yokels who did absolutely NOTHING!! Four hours later they pounded on my door and told me they couldn't do anything. UNBELIEVEABLE!! As a retired LEO, what had transpired is what I would call attempted murder but these idiots refused to do anything. Needles to say I moved from that city to one wher the PD is a lot more proactive.
This was a textbook case of what could have been a justifiable shoot. It transpired and was over in seconds but in those seconds so much ran thru my mind including if I shoot and miss where will the round hit and knowing that there was another home in the line of fire approx 50-75 feet away is why I didn't. Like they say, your brain just overloads with information when a situation like this is taking place and you have mere moments to make a decision that will have an affect on you for a lifetime!! If it had not been for years upon years of training I might have made the wrong decision which is why I encourage everyone to train, train and keep training and by that I don't mean an afternoon at the range. You need training that forces you to react to different scenarios you may face at some point. Is training expensive? You bet but it's a bargain compared to what a fight in a courtroom may cost you!
This was a textbook case of what could have been a justifiable shoot. It transpired and was over in seconds but in those seconds so much ran thru my mind including if I shoot and miss where will the round hit and knowing that there was another home in the line of fire approx 50-75 feet away is why I didn't. Like they say, your brain just overloads with information when a situation like this is taking place and you have mere moments to make a decision that will have an affect on you for a lifetime!! If it had not been for years upon years of training I might have made the wrong decision which is why I encourage everyone to train, train and keep training and by that I don't mean an afternoon at the range. You need training that forces you to react to different scenarios you may face at some point. Is training expensive? You bet but it's a bargain compared to what a fight in a courtroom may cost you!
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Me too! and I don't ever want to do it again.
I was thinking the same thing
bmcgilvray
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On a couple of occasions and a good outcome was effected in each instance. Can think of a few "near misses" in which the concealed handgun was a distinct comfort.
feralmerril
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No. However I belive being armed HAS saved me more than once. The demeaner and confidence that I had being armed (concealed) put me over the top several times. Strike that! In thinking about it, I just recalled haveing pulled it once another time in a incident.
I was hit and run, ran down the driver after they deliberatly hit me several more times trying to get away when I boxed them up. This of all places was in downtown Los Angeles!
Short story is the driver had warrants out for him, and police gave me my gun and ammo back. I wouldnt want to go through that again, but it was almost 40 years ago.
Now, on my job, I have also pulled it several times going into dark buildings to check the area after alarms were set off, but that doesnt really count here.
I was hit and run, ran down the driver after they deliberatly hit me several more times trying to get away when I boxed them up. This of all places was in downtown Los Angeles!
Short story is the driver had warrants out for him, and police gave me my gun and ammo back. I wouldnt want to go through that again, but it was almost 40 years ago.
Now, on my job, I have also pulled it several times going into dark buildings to check the area after alarms were set off, but that doesnt really count here.
Just once and I hope I never have to again.I was on the receiving end of a road rage in West Texas. Clownboy kept screwing with me and as my wife and infant daughter were sleeping the back seat of the car I has limited options. I put myself in the mindset that if clownboy forces me to stop or runs me off the road the first thing he is going to see is the barrel of a SP101.Right or Wrong I made sure he knew I had a gun, without branishing of course.Anyway clownboy got the idea and off he went.
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Even if he is on this forum, he'll clam up and say nothing, unless he's the kind of bright person that likes to do the opposite of what his lawyer advises. Good for him regarding "taking out the trash".
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On duty, so many times I couldn't keep track, but never fired a shot. Came close a few times, actually caught myself staging the trigger.
Off duty, never. If I have to draw off duty, it means I've already decided someone is going to get shot.
Off duty, never. If I have to draw off duty, it means I've already decided someone is going to get shot.
Superflywimpy
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Yes,once along time ago when I was first married
I lived in a upstairs apartment and a very upset man was kicking my front door in, I was sound asleep and was awakened by the wife,I grabbed my Springfield 1911 that sits on the night stand and ran out to the living room locked and loaded just as he managed to kick in the front door and barge in only stare down the barrel of a loaded 45 and me in my bvd's. I ordered him down to the ground and spread eagle,He was a very large biker type with the wallet chain,dirty Levis and boots and was drunk ta boot,Even though he was drunk he was scared as hell and on his belt on the small of his back was a very large knife in a sheath that was on sideways, I took it from him,and called the police. They took him in on breaking and entering with intent to commit bodily harm, Turns out he had a warrent for another crime and was sentanced to life as a three time loser under California's 3 strikes rule as a habitual criminal. I'm glad I didn't have to shoot him. But if I were unarmed,it would have turned out different I bet.
I lived in a upstairs apartment and a very upset man was kicking my front door in, I was sound asleep and was awakened by the wife,I grabbed my Springfield 1911 that sits on the night stand and ran out to the living room locked and loaded just as he managed to kick in the front door and barge in only stare down the barrel of a loaded 45 and me in my bvd's. I ordered him down to the ground and spread eagle,He was a very large biker type with the wallet chain,dirty Levis and boots and was drunk ta boot,Even though he was drunk he was scared as hell and on his belt on the small of his back was a very large knife in a sheath that was on sideways, I took it from him,and called the police. They took him in on breaking and entering with intent to commit bodily harm, Turns out he had a warrent for another crime and was sentanced to life as a three time loser under California's 3 strikes rule as a habitual criminal. I'm glad I didn't have to shoot him. But if I were unarmed,it would have turned out different I bet.
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once, and it is like an instinct, the sights line up perfectly you stage the trigger automatically and focus on the front sight like it's breathing, but thank god I didn't have to shoot, and it is a horrible feeling to have to
sipowicz
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Quite a few times in uniform...never in civvies...hope I never have to either....
I'm thinking the bvd's had a large role in him being so scared.
I'd almost be willing to bet he never noticed the BVDs.
Superflywimpy
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Yeah it was not how I pictured myself drawing on somebody one day
It's funny how big guys looking for trouble are dumbfounded and paralyzed with fear when they quickly find out you have the drop on them. Believe me I wished I would have had the few extra seconds to put some pants on. But had I done so he would have been my bedroom or the kids room. Drunk and hopped up on drugs no telling what would have happened. So yes I had to rush into the living room to face down this intruder with notheing more than underwear on and a 1911 springfield in hand. I can look back and say it probably looked funny at the time ,but was serious as hell. Here is the very pistol I had in hand ,made in Geneso Il U.S.A
It's funny how big guys looking for trouble are dumbfounded and paralyzed with fear when they quickly find out you have the drop on them. Believe me I wished I would have had the few extra seconds to put some pants on. But had I done so he would have been my bedroom or the kids room. Drunk and hopped up on drugs no telling what would have happened. So yes I had to rush into the living room to face down this intruder with notheing more than underwear on and a 1911 springfield in hand. I can look back and say it probably looked funny at the time ,but was serious as hell. Here is the very pistol I had in hand ,made in Geneso Il U.S.A
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Superflywimpy
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I tend to disagree Shawn, Some times you can learn from the experience of others
It was a legitimate question, All who post here,it's safe to say they are all gun owners. And bottom line handguns are good for one thing and one thing only. For those who wish to share their experience of having to confront a person with deadly force I think it's a good thing to share, In the service or police agencies a lot of guys get hurt by doing the wrong thing,or not doing the right thing however you want to look at it. You always want to know the circumstance of what happened and go over it to refine the tactics used,so mistakes are not repeated. There are two ways things happen,by the book and real life. And when the first shot is fired the book goes out the window. But keep in mind a cool head, firm voice and steady aim will diffuse any confrontation without having to fire a shot. Restraint,but the willingness to follow through if necessary.
It was a legitimate question, All who post here,it's safe to say they are all gun owners. And bottom line handguns are good for one thing and one thing only. For those who wish to share their experience of having to confront a person with deadly force I think it's a good thing to share, In the service or police agencies a lot of guys get hurt by doing the wrong thing,or not doing the right thing however you want to look at it. You always want to know the circumstance of what happened and go over it to refine the tactics used,so mistakes are not repeated. There are two ways things happen,by the book and real life. And when the first shot is fired the book goes out the window. But keep in mind a cool head, firm voice and steady aim will diffuse any confrontation without having to fire a shot. Restraint,but the willingness to follow through if necessary.
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