Anyone have a .270 cal rifle?

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I'm in the market for the bolt action Ruger American Rifle. It comes in .243, .270, .30-06 and .308. All cal's sell for $345.00. I kind of wanted the .243 but everywhere I call they are all sold out except the .270 at my local Wally's and I expect it to be gone in a day or two so I need to move quick if I'm going to get it.

Been looking over the ballistics tables and all 4 cal's are good shooters as far as I can tell.

Anyone have comments about why I should not go with the .270 for what ever reason? I kmow, what am I going to use it for and all that, what I want is a 300 - 400 yard shooter to kill anything from a coyote to a white tail to a bear. Also just for fun to shoot long distances.

Thanks in advance.
 
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The .270 is a well proven cartridge as are the three other cartridges you refer to. I prefer a short action caliber like the .243 or .308 if the bolt action rifle has a short action version available. Many budget bolt action rifles use a long action for the four cartridges you refer to. If that's the case i'd go for the .270 or 30-06. I'm not familiar with the Ruger American Rifle and do not know if it comes in long and short action versions. I personalty have a preference for .308, but there is nothing wrong with the three others.
 
The 270 is an excellent, flat-shooting, versatile cartridge suitable for deer, hogs, black bear, elk, and possibly moose. For the use you intend, I think it is the best of the calibers you listed.
 
The 270 is a great cartridge but I would prefer the 308. I own both and like the 308 a lttle more. The 243 is not quite as forgiving on bigger animals at long distances.
 
I think you will like the .270. It can be a little much for yotes if you want the fur but a great white tail caliber.
 
For your described shooting, I believe a 270 is superior to the 243. I used a 270 for years and now have it's near twin, the 280.

Ed
 
.270 Winchester is a great cartridge. I've hunted with it for over thirty years with good success. They tend to like 130gr bullets and Nosler Partitions or Swift A-Frames are excellent for larger game. I currently have three; a Remington 700BDL, a Kimber BGR Deluxe and a Sako Finbear Deluxe. Ammo is readily available, recoil is mild, the guns are generally accurate and it can take game up to the size of elk. What's not to like! ;)

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I have a sako in .270 and its been a fantastic gun. Taken down plenty of deer, one black bear, elk, and a colony of hogs. Easier to find ammo when 308 gets scarce too.
 
The .270 shoots flatter than the others and with the right bullets, will kill moose, elk, and bear, although I think the .300 Weatherby is a wise minimum for huge brown and polar bears. The 340 Weatherby is probably a really good polar bear rifle, with enough velocity to hold up well to the velocity loss imposed by extreme cold.

The .243 is mainly just a varmint and deer rifle, if the deer aren't too big or very far away. The .270 shoots flatter than the .308 and most .30/06 ammo, and is a little easier on your shoulder.

I'd buy ammo loaded with Nosler Partition bullets for larger animals. I even like their Federal Premium/Nosler load as a basic .270 round, as it leaves you with a margin of adequate bullet integrity if you have to shoot a bear while deer hunting.

The .338 or .375 H&H Magnum (a really GOOD ctg. for larger animals) might be better for hunting Roosevelt elk up there in heavy timber. But those rounds recoil a lot more, and if you have to ask a question like this, you are no rifle shooter! The .270, especially with the Nosler 150 grain bullet, will kill elk well if you know their anatomy and can place your bullet well at any reasonable range.

The famous hunting writer and gun authority Jack O'Connor (1902-1978) preferred the .270 to any similar cartridge and he killed a LOT of animals with it, including moose. He felt that moose are huge and take awhile to die, and those he killed with a .270 died about as quickly as those shot with a .375 H&H!

When I lived in Newfoundland, the local hunters mostly used .303 sporters, the .308, or the .300 Savage, in one case. None had any trouble collecting moose. Some had .30-30's. BTW, moose tastes more like beef than whitetailed or mule deer does, and is heavier meat with more fat. I liked it.

O'Connor killed one elk at 600 yards, using a .270 and a handload with the 130 grain Nosler. I think that was extreme range for ANY hunting rifle. He usually took lung shots. That elk was lying down and Jack had a rest to shoot from.

I was curious one day in Newfoundland and was shooting in a big pit on base. I had a Husqvarna .270 and a SMLE .303. I fired the .270 into a big bank of fairly soft mud. Now I know that this was not a scientific test of bullets as in controlled firing into big blocks of ballistic gelatin. I forget whether I was using CIL/Dominion Sabre tip ammo or Winchester Silvertips. But the bullet made a SIGNIFICANT cavity in that mud! I quit worrying whether it'd kill a deer...or a moose!

If your library keeps old issues of, "Outdoor Life" with O'Connor's gun columns or you can buy his gun books, get them and read his stuff on the .270. It will fill you with confidence, provided that you can shoot well. He owned .30-06, .338, .375 H&H , and .416 Rigby rifles. But even in Africa, he and his wife usually used .270, 7X57mm Mauser, and 7mm Remington Magnum rifles on most game. As I recall, Jack saw little practical difference between the .270 and the 7mmRM. He felt that a .270 with 22-inch bbl. that weighed about eight pounds was both effective and easy to carry, compared to heavier rifles that needed longer barrels with Magnum ammo. And it kicked less.

He favored the .257 Roberts as a varmint and deer load, over the 6mm rounds like the .243. But he knew that the .257 needed good handloads to reach its potential, as the factory loaded it a bit light, with RN bullets that weren't suited to retain velocity well at extended yardages.

Anyone who likes rifles owes it to himself to own O'Connor's "The Hunting Rifle" and, "The Rifle Book." John Taylor's, "African Rifles and Cartridges" is the other rifle book that I strongly recommend. Much there translates well to US hunting conditions. But modern bullets are better.

The Ruger M-77 is a very good rifle, if the bottom of the stock around the magazine floor plate is a bit square for my taste. You might also look at Winchester M-70's and the CZ rifles. My favorite is the M-70 Featherweight Classic. The Sako is also very good, if a bit heavier. It lacks the controlled-round feeding of the others, but is usually very reliable. However, I had one on which the receiver turned a plum color. But I suspect that can happen with other brands, too. The Sako was otherwise very impressive. It was a Finnbear, made in the early 1970's.

If your budget is limited, I understand that the Savage bolt actions are excellent values and just plain good rifles. I haven't seen any recent ones, but that's probably a distributor/dealer thing and a result of customer demand here, where the only Savage that seems well known was the M-99 lever gun. And most younger hunters don't even know it!

I'll have to look up the Ruger American, but the M-77 in general is a sound rifle. I think it can still be ordered with iron sights, too, a major boon.
 
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The .270 has been working well for almost 90 years. I like my Remington 700 in .270. Kills deer and hogs dead.
 
The 270 is one of my favorite calibers...I just have personally never had a lot of luck with it. One of those strange things, you get your heart set on one particular thing and it just dont pan out the way you wanted. I always either never saw game or missed easy shots or once even had one miss fire twice in a row while lined up on a decent buck.
There is absolutely no disputing it is extremely popular for a reason...it works and works well, just not when I carry one. I gave up and hunt with a 7mm-08. The thing about it I have never been able to figure out is why with all its popularity and success for so long, there doesn't seem to be much of a range of bullet selection, like with the 7mm.
 
My brother-in-law came to visit and he brought 2 rifles with him. One was .308 and the other was .270 Winchester. He had me use the latter during his quest to shoot 1,000 yards.

He had me use the .270 when we attended a long distance rifle practice session at a nearby range. Used his custom loads. We went from 300 to 600 to 800 yards, and eventually, 1,000 yards. Even at 1,000 yards, I was able to hit all in the black (except for 1 flyer that hit the 6 ring, felt different when pushing the bolt in, must've been defective cartridge, excuses, excuses), even a couple of X's and 4 10's out of the 12 shots that I fired. I didn't have any experience in long distance rifle shooting until then. Prior to this session, the longest distance I'd shot was 100 yards but I did not have access to a precision rifle with a developed load and a good scope. I did have quite a bit of experience with bullseye pistol. Fortunately, we didn't have any appreciable crosswinds during this session.

I just used his ballistic table (unverified past 400 yards until this session) and it was quite close to actual. Basic info for his 130 grain ballistic tip, with assumptions made for barometric pressure, relative humidity, etc.: zero at 100 yards, velocity 2728 feet/sec. At 1,000 yards, I had to adjust elevation 33 MOA (31.59 MOA was calculated by his ballistic calculator). According to his ballistic table, it would have had a velocity of 1289 feet/sec.

Fortunately, my brother-in-law left his .270 here with me so I'll have more chances to play with it. I may end up purchasing it from him, but because I enjoyed that one experience with long distance shooting, I may also end up getting a 6.5 x 284 Norma for F-class shooting.
 
I have 3 pre-64 Winchester Model 70 rifles in 270. All 3 have bagged vermin and deer to 400 yards. I've bagged many deer with the 243 and 308. I would not want to do long range on big deer or bear with the 243. I've bagged deer with probably 10 or more different calibers. The 270 works best of all up to big bears. I'd get the 270 and not look back.
 
Thanks for all the great replies. Texas Star, I will be ordering those books for sure, thanks for letting me know about them. It will be great reading.

Calling Walmart right now to make sure they still have the .270.

Joe
 
Joe,
I also have the Winchester mdl 70 in .270 and it is a great rifle. I think you will be very happy with that caliber. I also have a 30-06 and it basically stays in the safe.
 
Belgian Mauser Supreme is just an ol' home made .270
(With it's Belgian cousin Sweet 16 )has harvested a whole lotta game over a half century! elk, pronghorn, mulies, bitty whitetail culls to Boone and Crocketts, russian boar, hogs and javalina.
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I bought the Ruger American Rifle .270 during my lunch break, nice rifle.:) Been wanting one for a month now and I think I got the last one available within a 500 mile range. Now to find the right scope for under $100.00.

There were several other rifles in .270 and .243 for about the same price range but the bolt action on them just was not nearly as smooth as the Ruger. Maybe with a cleaning and lub they would work fine.
 
I have owed a 270 forever.Have shot all north american game. It will not let you down. 30-06 and up kick more and you need nothing more than the great 270 win.I live in WA. Retired now and am thinking of selling the gun plus reloading stuff and lots of rounds if interested.
 
I bought the Ruger American Rifle .270 during my lunch break, nice rifle.:) Been wanting one for a month now and I think I got the last one available within a 500 mile range. Now to find the right scope for under $100.00.

SWFA has a 3-9X 40 m/m Weaver Kaspa Scope for $98, which should be an excellent scope in that price range.
 

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