Anyone like derringers?

[1morethan8]

I have a Bond Arms Ranger ll...
It was totally disassembled.. all wear points polished.. sear engagement checked.. hammer spring shorten 10%.. and lubricated with a special oil I use. This gun is the later version that has the wider hammer spur and improved trigger. The pistol now has a hammer that is about 40% easier to cock and the trigger pull is set at 3 3/4 pounds.. which is light for a pistol of this type!
The lubricant is a blend of synthetic oil and TS-70 moly grease. It's hard to lube a stainless firearm because stainless is prone to metal galling, the moly grease is a paste and contains 70% molybdenum disulfide.
The ammo I use after many rounds of testing is a hot .45 Colt and lighter bullet than normal. This gives better speed from the 4 1/4" barrel and better bullet expansion from the short barrel. Hornady Critical Defense has proven to be a good factory load and a few of my hand loads has performed well in my test too.

 

[kaaskop49]

attn 1morethan8

I've had good results with .410 slug loads in my Bond 3.5" .410 bbl, but another poster claimed they were only the equivalent of a .380 ACP load. Not having a chronograph, I could not verify this. There is a 2.5" Brenneke .410 round that kicks like the 3" W-W slug load. You may like it as much as I.

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[Shorty 45 MK2]

Like the look of them, but don't own one.

Kind of like a SA revolver, there is just something cool about them.

 

[Otreb]

I just have the High Standard D100 in .22lr, plus a 'Philidephia' percussion Derringer. I had a Bond in ..357mag, but it has been replaced with a Taurus 'no' View which occupies the same amount of space, weighs less and holds five.

 

[kaaskop49]

I just have the High Standard D100 in .22lr, plus a 'Philidephia' percussion Derringer. I had a Bond in ..357mag, but it has been replaced with a Taurus 'no' View which occupies the same amount of space, weighs less and holds five.

I love those well-worn IWB suede pouches; something very cool about them. Please tell me what is a Taurus 'no' View? Is it a View without a plastic sideplate?

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

 

[Otreb]

I love those well-worn IWB suede pouches; something very cool about them. Please tell me what is a Taurus 'no' View? Is it a View without a plastic sideplate?

Kaaskop49
Shield #5103

Exactly, they went to aluminum side plates like their other 85 series guns. They still polished up the innards....but you can't see them.
For golf, I might still use the derringer.

 

[whitecoyote]

Bond Arms...

Bond Arms Back-Up.
Amazingly it's fairly accurate.

 

[SuperMan]

I carried a High Standard .22 Magnum Derringer every day that I was with Dallas PD. It was clipped to my vest under the left arm in a Bianchi #6 IWB holster. It was really a third stringer as I also carried a 50s vintage Centennial on my left leg.

Accuracy wise I can put two bullets in the kill zone of a B21 target at 25 yards. One barrel shoots right to the sights but the other is a little low.

With CCI TNT or +V the velocity is 1200 fps.

I'm not a real big fan of single action Derringers. For me cocking the hammer is awkward enough just target shooting...I would not have to do it while fighting someone....that is why I like the HS...point and pull... One of the State Police agencies down south used to issue HS Derringers as official backup guns many years ago...

Bob

 

[shouldazagged]

Whatever you like is okay with me, but I don't see the point. A gun roughly the size and weight of a J-frame, firing two rounds and harder to control with a reasonably powerful cartridge?

Maybe as a backup to a J-frame backup, the way SuperMan used one. I just prefer five rounds in a small package.

To each, of course, his own.

 

[Frogwalking]

Deringers

I found this one on Gun's International. 9mm. I can hit a silhouette target more or less in the middle at 5 yards. The kick is not as bad as some said, but is significant. Gun is 5/8 inch thick, and disappears in pocket holster. Not sure yet what I think about it. Those who are fans of the .22 mag should look at BBTI - Ballistics by the Inch :: Results and compare it to a .25 acp. Not encouraging.

 

[rafbentwaters]

I have a nice little Cobra of Utah with barrel sets in 32 H&R Magnum, 380 Auto and 38 Special. Gun works great and serves it's original intended purposes to stop card thieves across the table and or protect working girls in old saloons. Note: All calibers are very accurate out to 10 feet, but they key hole paper targets at that distance; probably best to just put a hefty revolver on the table to avoid any conflict.

 

[kaaskop49]

I have a nice little Cobra of Utah with barrel sets in 32 H&R Magnum, 380 Auto and 38 Special. Gun works great and serves it's original intended purposes to stop card thieves across the table and or protect working girls in old saloons. Note: All calibers are very accurate out to 10 feet, but they key hole paper targets at that distance; probably best to just put a hefty revolver on the table to avoid any conflict.

Question: Is this post cool or what?

Answer: It is VERY cool!

 

[vipermd]

I've had good results with .410 slug loads in my Bond 3.5" .410 bbl, but another poster claimed they were only the equivalent of a .380 ACP load. Not having a chronograph, I could not verify this. There is a 2.5" Brenneke .410 round that kicks like the 3" W-W slug load. You may like it as much as I.Kaaskop49Shield #5103

Smith & Wesson Governor Revolver w/ 2.5 in. barrel*
88-gr. Winchester slug 1217 fps 289 ft/lbs

Speer gold dot 90 gr 961 fps 185 ft/lbs Bersa Firestorm 3.5" barrel
From BBTI

I will stick with the 44 special!!

 

[Imissedagain]

22 Magnum works for me.
Making a brass grip frame for the Derringer.
Circa 1980

 

[shouldazagged]

Talk about a thread with legs--this one is over six years old. I guess the fascination with derringers just goes on and on. I was surprised to see it still running.

But then I don't see the appeal of a two-shot handgun almost as big and heavy as a five-shot J-frame, even as backup. If I carried a backup it would be a second J.

Guess I just have too little sense of coolness and too much desire for effectiveness.

 

[03hemi]

The only one worth carrying is the Bond derringer, had one and sold it because you might as well carry a J frame 38 spl. because they're close the same size.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Derringers are inherently dangerous and a waste of time. As a rule they are hard to shoot, heck, they are HARD TO COCK, and they are certainly useless except up close and personal. Notwithstanding Bob Munden's skills - he was a different kind of human being.

That said, derringers have a place if you have the right ones. The ONLY right ones as far as I am concerned are High Standard double action derringers. No hammer to cock, just point and shoot. I have two. One is NIB/Safe Queen. The other lives in the pocket of my robe so when I am bouncing around the house or putting out the trash there is always a gun handy, no matter how diminutive.

I do have an old Remington .41 rimfire. Very cool piece but I refuse to shoot it, much less carry it!

NIB - HS .22.

Still have the box, I think, but it lives in the Class III Galco holster:

Silly little gun - mini-revolver, not a derringer:

BTW, there is a Forum member who has a detailed story of how a HS .WMR as shown in my first pictures saved his life in Vietnam.

 

[ISCS Yoda]

Talk about a thread with legs--this one is over six years old. I guess the fascination with derringers just goes on and on. I was surprised to see it still running.

I read so much about guns this and guns that that after awhile it all blurs and I don't even realize I covered the same grounds as I did two years ago. It was only when I noticed my own thread cited by me above that it dawned on me that this is an old road!

 

[Old Arkansawyer]

Have owned a couple of the classic 2 barrel derringers. Have now switched to a NAA 22 mag. At about 80 ft.lb of energy these are for stick in their nose and pull the trigger.

 

[BEEMER1]

How about the COP with 4 barrels of 357. Shown here with a Rohrbaugh for size.