Anyone shot the Sig 357 round very much

[LIGHTNING-FAST]

I am looking to purchase 357 sig caliber at a later date anyone shot this round very much and what does it compare to. Thanks Tom

 

[handgunner356]

I'm still trying to figure out what we need it for?

 

[Shadow1006]

I shoot it from time to time from a Glock 29 with a conversion barrel, nice fairly fast round, 121-125 grain bullets @ 1400 fps from the 3.78" barrel. Handloading for it requires some attention to details to prevent bullet setback and maintaining proper head spacing.

I also shoot the big brother the 9x25Dillon (based on the 10mm casing necked down to 9mm) same bullets running 1600+ fps.

 

[KEN L]

I have not shot it extensively, but do shoot it periodically in a Glock Model 32, which is the same size as the Model 19 (9mm) or 23 (.40 S&W). It doesn't compare to anything as its in a class by itself. Its snappy & loud, but not uncontrollable. I think it is the best combination of velocity, penetration & stopping power. It seems to perform well against hard, medium and soft targets from tests I've read and seen. I don't worry about reloading cause I know they'd be a pain in the butt. So I try to find deals when I can on blasting ammo. Your choices for defensive rounds are endless since most seem to perform equally as well. Try it, you'll like it!

 

[bbaltered]

I just got a new M&P compact (357 SIG) and shot it back to back with my 40. Snappy and loud , yes but recoil only a hair more than the 40 with 155 gold dots.

 

[OMCHamlin]

I am starting to gain a bit of experience with it, through a Glock 31. Posters above are right, it is loud, has a bit sharper recoil (but not uncontrollable). I bit into it because I honestly believe in the legendary stopping power of the 125 gr jhp 357 Magnum, and to me insofar as to what I have read, this round in a 125 gr jhp load closely approaches my "Thor's Hammer" 357 mag 125s. I will do some chrono work soon to verify for myself. If so, then this round/gun combo just became a 4 inch Model 66 with a light smooth DA trigger and a really BIG cylinder in MY eyes
R/OMC

Oh, and Handgunner356, I guess we don't really need it, but while I have plenty of 45s and 9s to play with, this lives in my nightstand for "the Boogieman" at 2am... If the Boogieman turns out to be a pissed off Chuck Norris, I'll quickly offer him a bourbon, neat (as in I'll break off the neck of a bottle of Maker's Mark I've held on to for a couple years), but if that won't placate him, I'll just off myself with the 31 to save me the agony of a Norris roundhouse kick death beating. I don't really WANT to see my still beating heart, freshly ripped from my chest

 

[vsp537]

I'm still trying to figure out what we need it for?

Really? I wonder why anyone NEEDS to post questions that reflect no real thought.

 

[kevin in nh]

I have put thousands of rounds through my personal SIG 229, and 226....as well as my duty 229 and have finished off Deer, Bear and a Moose. The round was developed to mirror the .357 Mag as a one shot stop round in police shootings and it does the job. At the SIG academy I did penetration tests on gel, windshields, car doors etc......the foot pounds it generates is impressive....and a friend has hunted Deer with it and said the Remington Golden Saber did a little better than the Gold Dot....both 125 grain loads and all Deer were only shot once...it is fast, accurate and hits hard.

 

[Murdock]

Several months ago I listened to a recording of an old interview with Massad Ayoob regarding the .357 SIG. In that interview he stated that he and other authorities had questioned this round's purpose and were highly skeptical of it when it was first fielded.

He stated (I think I'm quoting exactly), "We have since had to eat those words." His bottom line was that the .357 SIG was much more effective in real encounters than they had anticipated, and truly a successor to the 125-grain .357 S&W revolver load.

I'm a .45 ACP kinda guy, but I try to keep an open mind on this stuff. If I didn't carry and use a .45 auto because I find it easy to shoot well, I probably would carry a M66 S&W .357 because of its proven effectiveness.

I have a SIG P229 in 40 S&W, but have been very tempted to buy a .357 SIG conversion barrel for it.

 

[Swelfelo]

357 Sig

I have several weapons in this caliber and like it for the following reasons:

1. The truncated nose is likely to feed better.
2. There is less perceived recoil than a 40 cal. round for me (yes, I have compared the same weapon with conversion barrels and roughly equivalent powered rounds).
3. Fantastic stopping power.
4. More accurate than 40 cal.

Your mileage may vary.

Swelfelo

 

[Skeptic 9c]

I don't know how well this will column:

Cartridge 357 Magnum 9mm Luger 357 SIG
Bullet Wt. Grs. 125 115 125
Bullet Type JHP Silvertip® HP JHP

Velocity in Feet Per Second (fps)
Muzzle 1450 1225 1350
50 1240 1095 1185

Energy in Foot Pounds (ft-lbs.)
Muzzle 583 383 506
50 427 306 390


Not very but it's what I kept from the last discussion on the round viability.
Geoff
Who is packing the 9mm in small flat easily concealed pistols, and a couple of moderate sized double stackers because the wife can shoot either one.

 

[williamlayton]

I think handgunner did reflect some thought---or at least I understood the statement.
What is looked at is a .357 speed in a semi-auto. I understand the desire but the proven .38 super's and 9x23's have already done this in much softer shooting vehicles.
I own the P239 aith both the .40 &.357 barrels---I like the 239 but wish it were in the 9mm.
I am also concerned about setback in the .357 sig---it is a very high pressured round.
I like the 9x23 & .38super more than the .357sig without giving up any performance---even when considering a .357 mag revolver.
Blessings

 

[jdh]

Yes the Super family has done good for a long time BUT it requires a 45 sized grip frame and does not like a double stack mag as well as the 357 which does the same thing and will fit in a 9mm sized grip frame. Thius is important to some shooters with smaller hands.

 

[sw44spl]

years ago I had the G33 in 357sig for my backup.at night on a range it will throw some fire.the sgt said it looked like a flame thrower beside the G22. then it was hard to find ammo so I sold it.I did find the recoil had a snap to it.and it did have a sharp report.but it was very accurate.I would like to have a M&P 357c

 

[LIGHTNING-FAST]

Thanks for all info,It seems it is a hot round 357 sig

Some Good feed back it is well recieved it seems the 357 sig is a hot little round. I don't have this caliber in my gun closet i have a choice between the 357 sig and the 10mm although i already have a 10mm s&w 1006. Was offered a deal on a model 29 don't know the rules here very well on this forum don't know where i can mention pistol brand name already recieved one infraction of the rules because i mention where to buy a s&w 1006 from another site. Thanks tom

 

[carbonado]

More data

Need to see more data on the round. Comparing the data for Ranger T Series rounds posted on the Winchester website for the .357 Sig it is hard to see what it gives you that the 9mm, .40 or .45 won't. From my view it looks like it gives you the least performance through different barriers. But I admit, I have a bias to surface area and penetration which is why I rate the .45, .40 and 9mm the best performing rounds in that order (the .45 being the best).

 

[TAKJR]

I read somewhere that Chicago Transit Police use this round to penetrate busses, windows, seats, etc. I believe (not 100%) that the Secret Service and Air Marshals use it. I also believe the Texas Department of Public Safety (Highway Patrol?) use it. I also read (not 100%) that every person shot with it either stopped hostilities or died.

I attended a Speer Ballistics Seminar and everything (positive) said by past posters is true. The only negative side is $$$ of ammunition and supply (at times).

I use a Glock 33 for backup which replaced by SP101 (doubling the rounds). I also have a 226 Elite in .357 SIG. I would not hesitate to go in harms way with one.

I like the noise factor too!

As far as setback of the bullet is concerned, I check the chambered round (if I clear the gun for any reason) and if I notice setback, I replace that round. I also advise any semi-auto user that intends to re-chamber the same round (after cleaning or clearing of the gun) to check for setback of the bullet beforehand (replacing that round with a new one if necessary) no matter the defensive caliber they shoot.

I love the .357 Sig for the intended use....as a great defensive caliber.

TAKJR

 

[Bigpoppa]

S&WM&P357Sig is my everyday carry weapon. I change out the barrel to 40S&W for few months out of the year as I honestly shoot both calibers with about the same amount of accuracy. Two guns in one can't be beat.

 

[JohnK]

I've shot a few .357 Sigs. I found the recoil, and muzzle blast a bit much for my tastes.

The ammo cost is also a factor.

I'm getting older, and a bit wimpy, so figured Federal +P+, or Cor-Bon 115 gr., at 1300-1350 fps will do for me.

I've shot a lot of game with the +P+ 9, and it is an authoritative round. Compared to even medium velocity .357's in a K frame revolver, recoil is nill.

 

[RedCardinal]

I have four pistols with 357 Sig barrels. A PC 40 Recon, Glock 32, Sig 229 and Sig 226. I shoot the 357 Sig about the same as the 40 S&W and have additional barrels in 40 S&W and 9MM for the 229 and 226. I have a Bar-Sto 357 Sig barrel for the 40 Recon. However, my favorite is the PC 3566 in 356TSW. The 356TSW is a hot 9MM with a 2.5MM longer case. The 356TSW round is not currently in production so I had the Performance Center make 9MM Parabellum barrels for both the Compact and Limited 3566 models. This gives a lot of versatility to shoot whatever ammo is available in these calibers.