CCW Reciprocity in Washington DC!!! I hope so!!!

[DeafSmith]

You can have zero murders if you station military on every street corner but then what do you have?? Not for me.

It is only till the D.C. police can reorganize and get a handle on the crime. The street gangs have got to go... and that is what is happening..

In time the gangs will be forced to leave. But until they leave murders, rapes, robberies, etc.. will continue.

 

[Denverd0n]

...it is deeply unfair to the residents of D.C. that they are forced to be governed by a Congress they have no voting representation in and full of people whom are not accountable in the slightest to them...

No. It's not unfair at all. DC was set up the way it is for a very specific and important reason, which DeafSmith explained quite well in post #34.

 

[326MOD10]

Haven't they found that some murders in DC were reported as "accidents"?

No they have not.

It was a political talking point put out but no proof. I know, hard to believe.

I just heard gas is under $2 a gallon so must be true. Right?

 

[gila_dog]

The Bill of Rights limits the powers of government. It shouldn't be subject to interpretation by States or Federal Districts.

Visitors shouldn't need a reason, but here's this years crime stats.

I wouldn't call that "reasonably and sensibly secured"...

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Here's another thing to think about. Look at the number of Motor Vehicle Thefts (3021) and Theft From Auto (3911) in the data above. If you leave a gun in your car it can get stolen and disappear into the criminal underworld. If you keep it on your person that is much less likely.

 

[326MOD10]

Well I live in Texas.. and we have reciprocity with D.C. I'd love to go there!

No State has reciprocity with DC? PLEASE provide me this information
DC only recognizes its concealed carry permits.

You also have an over simplistic unreasonable theory on the causes of crime.

If it was so simple as just sending in manpower and the problem disappears don't you think that would have been done years ago?

Now, in authoritarian countries that does work a little better. Take a peak at Russia, Iran, China, etc... and you will see lower numbers. But even there not eliminated. And I don't believe I want to live that way.

Causes of crime are rooted in many aspects.

 

[budhall]

My last time in DC, about 15 years ago, I was at a Mickie D's drive up window, 7:00am too, I actually had some POS and his hoe try to carjack me. That is, until he saw the pistol I let him see. They apologized profusely as they scurried off and I got my Egg McMuffins to go. No harm, no foul, but I wouldn't ever venture into DC without a discreetly hidden pistol on me. Legal or not, that's just my IMHO.
A good friend, an off-duty FPS officer had a similar experience with the same results; another "no harm, no foul"!!

 

[ridewv]

No they have not.

It was a political talking point put out but no proof. I know, hard to believe.

I just heard gas is under $2 a gallon so must be true. Right?

Well some of the DC policemen themselves have said so.

MPD sergeant Carlos Bundy, who has served in the department for 28 years and was in the MPD's homicide unit from 2010 to 2018, alleged police management has been "mis-categorizing deaths as something other than a homicide in order to keep the District's homicide numbers down." Bundy said the MPD "purposely misled the public about the homicide rates in the District of Columbia" by "misclassifying unnatural deaths (for example, by labeling them as accidents)." He also claimed his supervisors retaliated against him after he raised concerns about the practice, denying him days off and lowering his evaluation scores, among other punishments.

Bundy's allegations are similar to accounts from other MPD officers who said department leaders misclassified theft and aggravated assault cases as lesser offenses in order to depress the district's crime rates. D.C. recently settled another whistleblower retaliation lawsuit brought by former MPD sergeant Charlotte Djossou, who accused MPD brass of attempting to "distort crime statistics" by "downgrading a number of felonies to misdemeanors, so that there will be 'fewer' felonies in the statistics," the Free Beacon reported last week.

Lawsuit claims DC cops misclassified murders as accidents

Alana Goodman of the Washington Free Beacon highlights a significant legal action in the nation’s capital. A veteran Metropolitan Police Department officer alleged in an ongoing lawsuit that law enforcement officials in Washington, D.C., misclassified apparent murders in an effort to...

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[326MOD10]

To the above I would say anyone can allege anything. And anybody can file a lawsuit for anything. I notice the article doesn't say what the lawsuit alleges or is seeking, but that is part of it.

As I said in an earlier post I don't doubt that some crimes get downgraded and shouldn't be.

I also said I have seen things listed as suicide that later turn out to be murders.

But the cops don't determine the cause of death the coroner does. Now you may not agree with the coroner but without some proof it is a murder it won't be listed as one.

I will be interested to see the details, testimony and number of times this allegedly occured.

I may be wrong, and if so will admit it, but one disgruntled employee suing for some unknown reason and a vague article about it is far from proof.