bluegrassstate
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I've a friend that recently purchased a Smith & Wesson model 25-5 in 45 Long Colt. My question is are moon clips necessary since there is no recessed cylinder. Many Thanks
Are Moon Clips needed for 45LC ammo on the model 25-5
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If it came out of the factory as a .45 Colt, no.
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Nope.
45 Long Colt is a rimmed cartridge that headspaces on the rim.
45 Long Colt is a rimmed cartridge that headspaces on the rim.
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And the .25-5 .45 Colt caliber revolvers were not recessed from the factory. That was a method used to convert .455 caliber HEs to .45 Colt.
They weren't recessed because S&W stopped recessing cylinders around 1970 for all their models.
Recessed cylinders were not invented to convert 455 to 45 Colt. 455 Eley is a rimmed cartridge like 45 Colt.
Not following. Please explain.
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The OP mentioned that his cylinder was not recessed and for that reason he thought he needed moon clips. I explained why that didn't matter. The recessed cylinder was only used by S&W for rimfire and magnum cartridges at any time. The .45 Colt is neither and so no S&Ws in that caliber were recessed from the factory. Some .455 revolvers were converted to .45 Colt by recessing the cylinder to accomodate the difference in rim thickness. I suspect he had seen posts mentioning this as a visual indicator of conversion to .45 Colt rather than .45 ACP (which would use moon clips) and was thinking of that. I hope that satisfies your curiosity.
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No mention of 455 or 45 ACP by the OP. Just 25-5 and 45 Colt which is probably stamped on the barrel.
The reason I asked why you were suggesting anything odd like recessed cylinders for a 25-5 45 Colt .
Never mind.
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AJ
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What does the owners manual say? Anyone think to read it? Like the owner.......
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The 25-5 is chambered in .45 Colt caliber. It does not need or use moon clips. It never had a recessed cylinder.
Why are y'all throwing in a bunch of unrelated stuff and just confusing the issue? It was a simple question with a simple answer.
Why are y'all throwing in a bunch of unrelated stuff and just confusing the issue? It was a simple question with a simple answer.
Pisgah
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The 25-5 is chambered in .45 Colt caliber. It does not need or use moon clips. It never had a recessed cylinder.
Why are y'all throwing in a bunch of unrelated stuff and just confusing the issue? It was a simple question with a simple answer.
In case you haven't noticed, that describes about 84.7% of all conversations on this forum ... and 62.3% of the time, the answers are not only unrelated, but wrong.
Baltimoreed11754
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Can I play?, the op can also shoot .45 Schofield and .45 Cowboy Special in his nice .45 colt Smith. None of which require clips as they all have rims.
He can also shoot .44-40 in a .45colt as a fellow absentminded cas shooter did at one of our shoots for one stage. He was surprised that he missed with all 10 pistol shots until he ejected his brass to see them split. We all got a good laugh out of that. He used the correct ammo for the other 5 scenarios.
He can also shoot .44-40 in a .45colt as a fellow absentminded cas shooter did at one of our shoots for one stage. He was surprised that he missed with all 10 pistol shots until he ejected his brass to see them split. We all got a good laugh out of that. He used the correct ammo for the other 5 scenarios.
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Good idea.
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The Schofield and Cowboy Special ammo are not problems as far as I know. The ability of the 44-40 to be chambered and fired is not a good idea except in the most dire of emergencies. The fact that the ammo did not hit where intended and the cases split is an indication that one should not do so. (Just to make the warning clearer.)
Jim Watson
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But if you put a .45 Colt in your .44 Winchester, you will be sorry.
A Texas Ranger did that under attack by Indians. He stayed cool, used the point of his Bowie knife to unscrew the side plate, cleared the jam, and resumed shooting. He traded that .45 for a .44 at the next opportunity.
A friend did that at a SASS match, too. It was a lengthy time out.
He also got a .44 round in his .45 revolver too, with similar hilarity as above.
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I wonder what happened to the kinder gentler happy Smith and Wesson forum of yesteryear?
Don't ever ask about an extractor for a model 39 either! I'm out of here.
Don't ever ask about an extractor for a model 39 either! I'm out of here.
The 25-5 is chambered in .45 Colt caliber. It does not need or use moon clips. It never had a recessed cylinder.
Why are y'all throwing in a bunch of unrelated stuff and just confusing the issue? It was a simple question with a simple answer.
It does get old, doesn't it?
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bluegrassstate
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thanks for answering my question and all the other stuff as well.
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