Are we are own worse enemy?

[TexasG]

Can we just settle down with the crazy pricing. Trust me, I'm all about capitalism. I just don't like to see prices for say a "highly used 5906" priced at $685.00. Or a "LNIB" Colt 1911 Gold Cup for $2995.00. Listen up! I can't fault these sellers for capitalizing on the "gun craze" but guys???? Are we really doing our sport, passion, fun times, protection- any good? Let's focus on the 2nd amendment.

Or maybe I'm just way off here and off my rocker? Settle down and get a grip on our sport, fun and our ability to protect our selves and our family.

 

[blujax01]

If the guns don't sell the price is too high and the price will come down if the seller is willing to take less.

That being said, anyone willing to pay $685 for a 5906 deserves to be fleeced.

And if I see that more than one person is willing to pay $685 for a used 5906, not only am I not "settling down", I'm putting mine up for sale at $700!

That's how "being all about capitalism" works.

 

[gm272gs]

I made money off those morons, back in January and February.
If I were to fault anyone for doing the same now, it would be a bit disingenuous. All people are doing now is making a smaller margin.

There are a lot of people out there selling their guns right now. Many of them are morons who need the money because they paid $100 a piece for 30-round AR15 mags back in February, and need to pay off their 19% credit card bills.

If you hang around a big-box gun store with $300 cash in your pocket, it's pretty easy to pick up a gun from some guy who just got offered 50% of book value on a gun, from the pimply-faced kid behind the counter. When a guy needs money, and he's looking at $150 for a gun he paid $500 for, and you offer him $200, you're going to be his new best friend.

 

[diamonback68]

"We create our own inflation"

 

[USMCHEROS]

I think some have been watching too much Gun store TV shows. This type of weapon goes for this much money and it's the wow factor.

 

[hangnoose]

ARE WE OUR OWN WORST ENEMIES?

Speaking as ALL gun owners collectively, YES. in regard to used guns the old mantra condition, condition, condition. who hasn't broken that golden rule? "I've been looking for that exact thing forever", "if I don't buy it now the next guy will". "I can get it to look/ work OK if I just"... being impulsive and having more cash than usual burning a hole in your pocket, sound familiar? To the soul less ammo flippers and gun buyers that take advantage of widows and uneducated/panicked/impulsive people be it, private buyers, pawn shop, retail, it's legal and if you can sleep at night, that's your biz. I don't feel it reflects well on "US ALL". drinking THEN shooting (instead of the other way around) and open carriers that only do it to change peoples perceptions, (not cuz it get's me the attention I crave) also hurt the collective IMO. I don't like others trying to push their agenda on me. I don't think "WE" should try and push our agenda on them. My rant for the week.

 

[kamloops67]

i wish guns were a little less expensive but i know that most of my guns have appreciated in value or at least are holding their value. so it goes both ways ,right?
now lets talk about the price of raw lead! grrr.

 

[feralmerril]

I am not sure of the exact markups, but we hear of people getting offered from a gun store about 50% of what they think they should get. I would never take a gun to a gun store to sell. If its a gun still in production, lets see; I am guessing he buys a stock gun to put out for 70% so he can make 30%. Now why would he want to give someone 50% for a gun that he has to sell used even if it looks 95% ? The gun wont sell for near as much as the same exact model brand new sitting next to it will it?

 

[Rule3]

I always wonder about Blue Book value? Never have I seen a used gun sold at anything close to those posted numbers.

Try to use them selling/or buying a gun

So book value at 100% says it's worth $500, gun is in no way 100%, lets say a 95% no box papers and been shot some.

Seller wants $650

Oh, it's just a "guide"

To what?

 

[feralmerril]

Well dealers in some shops and gun shows like to use them as a talking point at gun shows. As we know, some guns go for more than the blue book says and some less in other cases.

 

[hangnoose]

GUN VALUE

blue book is total BS to me. black book or fair market value seems more accurate, BUT in reality $/worth is whatever someone is willing to pay. some are more willing than others. to a novice a shiny new Ruger lcp is worth more than a mint S&W mdl 10, sitting right next to it. inflation has caught up with the old saying, "there's a sucker born every minute" and it should be revised to "every second."

 

[Lost Lake]

Can we just settle down with the crazy pricing. Trust me, I'm all about capitalism. I just don't like to see prices for say a "highly used 5906" priced at $685.00. Or a "LNIB" Colt 1911 Gold Cup for $2995.00. Listen up! I can't fault these sellers for capitalizing on the "gun craze" but guys???? Are we really doing our sport, passion, fun times, protection- any good? Let's focus on the 2nd amendment.

Or maybe I'm just way off here and off my rocker? Settle down and get a grip on our sport, fun and our ability to protect our selves and our family.

I would never sell a gun for less than the most I could get for it.

I'm not funding someone else's enjoyment!

If I can get $700 for a gun, you think I should ask $300 to improve my focus on the second amendment? To get a grip on our sport?

This sounds like the entitlement mentality. Others should give what they have so everyone gets some.

No thanks. I sell for the market price.

.

 

[BigBill]

If the price is high and someone buys it so be it. I don't care if I want it I pay. I don't complain about it. "But" if it's way over priced I will wait till a cheaper one comes along. I seen a colt officers target model revolver on a 41 frame in 22lr for $1,200. I passed but I wanted it really bad. Later on another one showed up for just $700. I figured it was a bit too much but it seems to be the average going rate on them now.

Now was it ok for the salesman to black market the s&w m29' s after the dirty Harry movie came out? I stayed away from buying any s&w products for almost 40 years. It didn't matter to any gun owners price wise my buddies purchased them anyway. I refused to pay that black market price anyway.

Even today I'm not rich but living comfortable let's say but I'm still frugal on what I pay for anything. I want the most bang for my hard earned dollar. Like I said before when I seen the N Frames for almost half the list price and they were still brand new unshot I'm frugal but not stupid.

I do pay my plastic off every month but I don't run it up too
I leave room on it should a deal pop up.

Even before my prostate cancer I always felt to do everything I wanted to do or could afford to do. I'm not going to be on my death bed saying I wish, I could of did that. I'm going to say I did everything I wanted to do. Within reason reason I don't sweat the big things sometimes it's the things that money can't buy.

My dad always thought that money would make him rich like winning the lotto but having four awesome sons he was rich the whole time
but never knew it or seen it. Our family should be the most important thing to us. Our family comes first, feeding our family comes next, paying our bills and supporting our family comes next. Then it's save a little and spend some. Whether it's taking the kids out for ice cream or buying a half gallon and making your own ice cream cones it's these times that are remembered.

 

[Marshall 357]

I support the second amendment and have been buying firearms since I have been old enough to...its not my fault people are not prepared and run out at the last minute and buy everythjng on the shelves. I just love going into the gun shop and seeing all those people that are too proud to ask for advice handle a gun and look like a total dork...I heard on guy tell is buddy..you need a Kimber they make the best 911s (not 1911s) Then he told the salesman he wanted to see a few 911s .He didnt know it was a 1911.Or the guy who was a sniper in Nam and bought a $80 Tasco scope for his custom built sniper rifle.? These are the people that make gun owns look bad..let them pay top dollar..

 

[gm272gs]

...Or the guy who was a sniper in Nam...

Ow. My sides hurt.

I had a kid ask me at the gun counter what the "thingy" sticking out behind the ejection port of an AR-15 was. I asked him: "do you mean the shell-deflector?" to which he nodded. I told him what it did, and he told me he never saw one on "the ones he used before". I just didn't know what to say, since I was pretty sure Eugene Stoner designed that part to be there from the beginning.

That got me to thinking - do they even show the right side of an M4 on Call of Duty?

 

[Cyrano]

gm29gs. I don't think the original M 16s had the shell deflector and it was bad news if your were a left handed shooter. Don't know when it was installed, perhaps about the time they changed from the three pronged flash hider to the basket type, but I'm just guessing.

 

[amazingflapjack]

I am grateful for the "free" in "free enterprise system."

 

[Aticus]

Remember what Pogo said, "I have seen the enemy and he is us."

 

[feralmerril]

The market place sets the price. It`s suppose to be simple as that. Now in short terms obvisly this is`nt gospel but in the long term it has to be. Yes, we have "abbergations" that upset the market. It is done by incidents of panic, but mostly excitable stupid people buying into hysteria. Now, if you had`nt kept your actual needs on hand and need the item (ammo) you will have to pay the price and should`nt be called stupid as I just did.
There is more than one ammunition company, there are many firearm companys. In the long run if one company stays greedy there is still such a thing as compition, and another probley smaller company will gear up if there is money to be made by undercutting the greedy companys prices.
It`s elementary my dear watson.