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. . .somehow, this just fits the topic at hand. . .
. . .somehow, this just fits the topic at hand. . .
Arrogant sellers...
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Andy Griffith
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One thing that does get me...and that I learned a long time ago...
I never tell a seller at a gun show that "I'll be back" not only is it 99% of the time a lie, it has become a trite expression and overused. If its out of your price range and a nice piece you admire, just tell him so. If you aren't interested in a piece at a certain price, make an offer- all you can do is be shot down. (pun intended) No reason to get in a argument with a seller because he won't part with something at your price and terms- walk on to next deal.
Good things come to those who wait.
Dick, was there any single shot Winchester .22's on David's table?
I've always wanted to attend a show where he exhibited, but never have.
I never tell a seller at a gun show that "I'll be back" not only is it 99% of the time a lie, it has become a trite expression and overused. If its out of your price range and a nice piece you admire, just tell him so. If you aren't interested in a piece at a certain price, make an offer- all you can do is be shot down. (pun intended) No reason to get in a argument with a seller because he won't part with something at your price and terms- walk on to next deal.
Good things come to those who wait.
Dick, was there any single shot Winchester .22's on David's table?
I've always wanted to attend a show where he exhibited, but never have.
bk43
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No. Arrogance, and all of the other bad, and good BTW, traits of the human critter will exist until the end of time.
Deal with it. It's part of life.
Bob
CAJUNLAWYER
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I probably am.
If you don't want to buy-move along-there's people behind you.And the term you are looking for , if you want to describe me in business dealings does start with an "A" but it isn't arrogant.
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Grayfox
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I don't sell many guns, but recently did offer one. I knew what it was worth and felt I was asking a fair price for it. I was surprised at the number of low ball offers I got. I was surprised even more when some of these prospective buyers got angry and down right rude when I politely turned them down.
I guess arrogance works both ways.
I guess arrogance works both ways.
Danny Abernathy
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With all due respect I have been on both sides of the fence many times and there is room for manners on both sides.
Last weekend at a show in town I took a Colt LW Commander with me to see if I could find a Goverment model in similar condition to trade for.
Not finding anything I was interested in I just walked around looking the show over. I kept my gun in a case under my arm as I was tired of explaining to curious people what I had and what I wanted for it. One guy asked me what I had and I explained to him that I wasn't interested in selling my gun as I wanted to trade it. He kept asking and I finally let him see it. Asking what I would take cash for it I told him that I had a lot in the gun with the work that had been done to it and if I totaled it all I had over $1200 in the gun. He said with a smirk "I'll give you $600 right now". Well I thanked him for the offer and said again I would rather trade it and he muttered something to the effect that I was a jerk and I was crazy asking that for a gun.
The point I'm trying to make is that I didn't want to sell it, he asked what I wanted and he made a stupid offer and was insulted that I didn't take it. If you don't want to buy it at the price asked walk away, there is no need to be nasty. No one is insulted and you are a better person for it.
Nuff said.
Last weekend at a show in town I took a Colt LW Commander with me to see if I could find a Goverment model in similar condition to trade for.
Not finding anything I was interested in I just walked around looking the show over. I kept my gun in a case under my arm as I was tired of explaining to curious people what I had and what I wanted for it. One guy asked me what I had and I explained to him that I wasn't interested in selling my gun as I wanted to trade it. He kept asking and I finally let him see it. Asking what I would take cash for it I told him that I had a lot in the gun with the work that had been done to it and if I totaled it all I had over $1200 in the gun. He said with a smirk "I'll give you $600 right now". Well I thanked him for the offer and said again I would rather trade it and he muttered something to the effect that I was a jerk and I was crazy asking that for a gun.
The point I'm trying to make is that I didn't want to sell it, he asked what I wanted and he made a stupid offer and was insulted that I didn't take it. If you don't want to buy it at the price asked walk away, there is no need to be nasty. No one is insulted and you are a better person for it.
Nuff said.
rburg
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No. The estate did have several Winny repeaters, and there was one Kimber. The rifles take a lot of room, and I think he prefers the handguns. Its more his area of expertise.
Andy Griffith
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That's why I asked Dick.
Not exactly something that he specializes in, but usually in estate sales it's a "take all" proposition. I figured if David had it, it would be high grade.
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You buy the gun not the BS. I don't care if the seller is a used car salesman or a polka-dot colored monkey (as long as they have proper ID of course). Yes, people who lie annoy me too (just like people who run red lights); but it's your money & your responsibility to spend it wisely.
The only thing that aggravates me is people who don't put prices on there guns, & when you ask, they tell you to make an offer. "Nevermind, I don't have time games" and walk on.
The only thing that aggravates me is people who don't put prices on there guns, & when you ask, they tell you to make an offer. "Nevermind, I don't have time games" and walk on.
3rd Gen Neal
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Love the run red lights shot, I agree. From red lights to rude people to loud motorcycles there has been one rant after another around here.
Wayne02
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I find the angry buyers to be more entertaining than the arrogant sellers.
The add states - 'No trades'
The first three offers are for trades...
followed by - "you don't realize the value of this super gun I'm offering to trade for your gun which you have over priced for the market."
followed by - "Ok, well its your loss then"
OR
The add states - 'local face-to-face sale only'
The first two responses are from out of state
followed by - "why won't you sell out of state, do you realize that you are limiting your market?"
followed by - "Ok, well whatever makes you happy, its your loss then"
One week later - "See I told you, you could have had this gun sold the day you listed it, whatever, your loss."
followed by - "What do you mean if I want the gun so bad I should move to your state?" "Are you serious?!"
The add states - 'No trades'
The first three offers are for trades...
followed by - "you don't realize the value of this super gun I'm offering to trade for your gun which you have over priced for the market."
followed by - "Ok, well its your loss then"
OR
The add states - 'local face-to-face sale only'
The first two responses are from out of state
followed by - "why won't you sell out of state, do you realize that you are limiting your market?"
followed by - "Ok, well whatever makes you happy, its your loss then"
One week later - "See I told you, you could have had this gun sold the day you listed it, whatever, your loss."
followed by - "What do you mean if I want the gun so bad I should move to your state?" "Are you serious?!"
TNDixieGirl
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So anyone that voiced an opposing/different viewpoint from yours is arrogant and insulting??? Methinks you're way too sensitive. 
rburg
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That's why I asked Dick.
Not exactly something that he specializes in, but usually in estate sales it's a "take all" proposition. I figured if David had it, it would be high grade.
David is now selling down a couple of estates. Both of them were friends, with Mike Noe's estate being the one I'm probably closest to because his widow is a friend of ours. Bill Maier was a big time collector, but some of his tastes ran to older guns, things I'm not interested in. He also sells down excess or surplus guns from members here. He sold a bunch of my K22s and RMs back when I was dumping them. He has a web page with his current stock on it.
RightWinger
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I have worked in a gun store and sold many guns as a private seller as well, and have bought many guns both for the store I worked at and for myself. I have always had "special" customers that did get a little better pricing on guns than most customers and it was for this simple fact.....These customers had built a great relationship with our store, they were easy to work with, they would haggle on prices, but were very polite about it, they realized the store had to make money, and that they had a price they were willing to pay and we did what we could to make the final price a happy medium. At the time I worked for the gun store cops were the worst buyers to deal with, they would often come in and in front of a large crowd of potential buyers ask real loud, "whats my police discount going to be"?.....If it was up to me I would of told them to get out of the store at that point because the only reason we could offer a LEO discount was because of the majority of people in the community that did pay full price was covering the little bit of loss from selling at a discount to an LEO. Unfortunately you're not always able to buy guns from one single dealer, but in the past, I try to buy most of my guns from a single dealer because he knows the stuff I like, and will call me when something he thinks I would like comes into the store....its a great relationship that works both ways.
greyhawk178
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Geezus man, looks like you want to pick fights
with everyone who doesn't take your side. Frankly, who really cares if you are upset ?? Go take a valium.
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Denver Dick
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I don't get all this arrogance stuff. It's the seller's property and he can offer on any terms he wants. I'm a buyer far more than I'm a seller, and I get really frustrated sometimes when I see a firearm that I feel is overpriced, especially when I want it. But, that's just the way it is.
The proof is always in the putting. I've thought some S&W's I've seen on consignment lately were significantly overpriced. However, when they move the overpriced gun in a week or two, well . . . I must've been wrong because the market price is set when a willing seller and willing buyer agree on the deal. On the other hand, I know where there is a nice 1076 right now that I feel is overpriced for the area where the gun shop is located, especially with the current cost and shortage of 10mm ammo. Since I examined the gun personally a few months ago and found it to be very nice, I don't think condition is an issue. And yet, it's been up for 8 months. So, I guess I'm right about it being overpriced.
Frankly, when I find a gun in the condition I want that I don't see come for sale very often, I haggle the best I can and then pay the price, even if I believe that I ended up paying too much. After all, there are some guns I've seen come up for sale only once in the last three years . . . and some of them I bought. So, if I paid $50 or $75 too much . . . big deal, at least I'm enjoying them now.
JMHO
The proof is always in the putting. I've thought some S&W's I've seen on consignment lately were significantly overpriced. However, when they move the overpriced gun in a week or two, well . . . I must've been wrong because the market price is set when a willing seller and willing buyer agree on the deal. On the other hand, I know where there is a nice 1076 right now that I feel is overpriced for the area where the gun shop is located, especially with the current cost and shortage of 10mm ammo. Since I examined the gun personally a few months ago and found it to be very nice, I don't think condition is an issue. And yet, it's been up for 8 months. So, I guess I'm right about it being overpriced.
Frankly, when I find a gun in the condition I want that I don't see come for sale very often, I haggle the best I can and then pay the price, even if I believe that I ended up paying too much. After all, there are some guns I've seen come up for sale only once in the last three years . . . and some of them I bought. So, if I paid $50 or $75 too much . . . big deal, at least I'm enjoying them now.
JMHO
safearm
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I've dealt with "arrogant" dealers on this forum. I've had them fail to answer my e-mails or PMs when I've made legitimate offers. All I do is ignore them and watch when their prices frequently drop below what I initially offered. I also refuse to buy from them, regardless of their final price. The cost of their "arrogance" is the loss of my cash. I don't worry or rant about it.
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