Attacked by Pitbull.. What would you do?

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You know, it's not about the breed. If a dog, any dog, large enough to do damage (Chihuahuas are very aggressive dogs, but can be handled easily with my boot), comes growling and snarling at me, my family or pets, I will deal with it. I'm not going to take the time to assess its lineage.
Yup. Thats why i asked people to assess the dog. Far different demeanor in aggressive vs friendly.
 
Several years ago, my daughter was about 5 at the time, I came home from a shooting session. I had a Marlin 45-70 in the back seat of my car. I live on a cul de sac and directly across it were some renters. One had a pitbull. My daughter was in the front yard playing and laughing. The dog looked over at her and started staring. Then it started to walk across their front lawn towards the street, picking up speed as it went. I watched the dog zero in on my daughter. I reached into the back seat, picked up the Marlin, found a couple of rounds, loaded it and racked one in the chamber. (Amazing how you can do things quickly when necessary).
By this time, the dog was about 3/4 across the cul de sac. I started walking towards my daughter, she was still oblivious, and aimed at the dog. If he got all four paws on my lawn, he was a dead dog. The owner across the street freaked out and started yelling and running towards my house. He caught the dog just as it got to the sidewalk. He started cussing me out saying his dog was gentle, raised right and great around kids, never having hurt anyone. I told him if the dog was ever on my property again, it would be dead and that I had a good lawyer.
He still tried to explain how since the dog was "raised" right it was harmless. I then asked him one question, which I have asked several pitbull owners since. Pitbulls were raised and bred to be vicious, it is instinct now. The question I ask anyone who states that it is how you raise an animal that makes them vicious or non vicious, is, if you get a tiger cub and raise it properly, does that mean it will be a harmless 600 pound house cat when it grows up? Would you trust your life to that, or your kids life? Most get a bit peeved and don't answer.
If I would have been you, the minute that dog was on my land, it would have left this earth.
Not the same thing. Tigers were never domesticated. Neither were lions or bears. The whole Pitt bull thing is a myth. People use them for fighting because of that myth. They don't lock jaws, can't, never could, don't have it in their DNA...just like all other dogs. The strongest bite from a dog is a Rottweiler not a Pitt bull. Most dog attacks are blamed on Pitts cause the dog was a mutt and had short fur. My dog even looks like. Pitt bull despite being a 20lb rat terrier. They are terriers so they share a resemblance. The term pit bull is often used loosely to describe dogs with similar physical characteristics. The American Bulldog is also considered a Pitt.

Some of the most selfless dogs have been Pitts. Google Popsicle the Pitt bull. Had the highest amount of drug seizures in history of Border Patrol.

Weela, who helped save 32 people, 29 dogs, 3 horses, and 1 cat

D-Boy, who took three bullets to save his family from an intruder with a gun

Lilly, who lost a leg after being struck by a freight train while pulling her unconscious owner from the train tracks

WW 1 infantry dog
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I'm not saying you were wrong to be concerned. I would be too with ANY large dog but to think that just because it's a Pitt automatically makes it dangerous is like saying guns automatically make people dangerous.
 
Yet you cannot deny the pitbull and breeds like it were bred to be specifically dog aggressive, and have a high drive to fight.
Pit Bull Breed History -- Pitbull

I have a mutt, I have friends that have mutts and labs, etc..and I have friends who have pits and one with an american bulldog.
Guess which ones attack other dogs unprovoked and can't be taken to dog parks? It aint the labs or mutts.
I be played with mutts, Pitts and labs
Guess which is the only one that but me? It wasn't the Pitt or the mutt
 
While not scientific at all...I've seen more "bites" and aggressive Belgian Malinois and German Shepherds than Pit Bulls, my Dad has even had to have surgery on his hand from a Shepherd biting him, (granted he also no longer has feeling in his left thumb from a bite by a normal house cat.) even though I lived in an area were just about everyone had a Pit bull or pit mix and is known as the knifing capital of NC (good ol' Robeson county. :D) so the pits aren't exactly raised "right" either...
 
Yes.



Not really.
"During the course of a dog fight, the dogs were expected to fearlessly hurl themselves at their opponents without flinching or hesitation. If a dog turned away, it was viewed as a weakness and could be grounds for forfeit. Even if the hesitant animal was lucky enough to survive the encounter, he was still not out of the woods. Many handlers killed their own dogs because they believed a dog that hesitated even once could no longer be relied on to fight with the verve and tenacity the sport required. "
Pit Bull Breed History -- Pitbull

Thats not training them. That's culling the ones that don't have a high level of aggression, i.e. selectively breeding.



Because dogs are pack animals at nature.



I must have missed that. All sources that I've read, both pro and anti pitbull/fighting dog, admit that high dog aggression is a natural tendency of those breeds.

"Pit bull terriers were selectively bred for a violent activity that is now a felony in all 50 U.S. states: dogfighting.

Dogfighting Fact Sheet by the Human Society of the United States"
Quick Statistics - U.S. Dog Bite Statistics - DogsBite.org



Or maybe its the statistics that show lethal dog attacks here in the U.S. to be overwhelmingly instigated specifically by...pitbulls
Maybe because most vicious Pitts are in the hands of those who use them to hurt others.

In the 80s Dobermans were considered the worst dogs. Most dangerous! They still exist why are they no longer talked about
 
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Glad to read this thread because this is similar to what happened to me last week. I had just gotten a epidural in my lower spine and a few hours later took my 2 dogs for a walk, walking helps my back and that's all my 2 dogs live for is their daily walk. I was on the next block from my home and out of nowhere comes this bull dog charging and biting at my dogs mostly the bigger one she is 60 pounds and little biscuit is 13 pounds, I was kicking at him and connected a couple of times but he would not stop and my dogs were jumping and I was twisting and in a lot of pain trying to protect my dogs, the owner finally came and grabbed his dog, he did apologise but I was not happy. I swear if I had been carrying that dog would have been put down in a heart beat and I don't give 2 craps of what anyone thinks, if you're not in that situation you have no idea of how you would react. I love dogs and most animals more than I like people but when your life or an animal you love lifes is in danger you only think of saving them and you.

I think you did great !!!!
 
And I don't have anything against any dog breed, I don't believe any dog is born vicious, I blame the people who raise them to be vicious. Here is a little video of my big and bad 150 pound rotty, you tell me how mean and vicious he looks.
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I did have an ugly situation some years ago that was not in the context of the OP, but is now based on following posts

A neighbor (arrogant alpha male) had a German Shepard professionally trained as an attack dog. Other female neighbor had a pathetic, blind, deaf, two pound lap dog. She was the town's lead ER trauma nurse, and gave her life to helping others.
One afternoon she has her dog out. Other neighbor comes out. I hear her screaming. He points at her dog, and says "KILL". I grabbed the .308 at the door, and dropped the shepard as it was chewing through her arm as she defended her dog. I called 911, and faced the music. He filed charges against me, but I won. The lawyer send him a bill for the ammo and costs to drive to the store.
Bad guy was evicted immediately, good nurse resigned and went to another town. My town lost big time, but she and the dog were safe. I hope he needed class 1 trauma care a few weeks later. But he will rot.
 
Glad to read this thread because this is similar to what happened to me last week. I had just gotten a epidural in my lower spine and a few hours later took my 2 dogs for a walk, walking helps my back and that's all my 2 dogs live for is their daily walk. I was on the next block from my home and out of nowhere comes this bull dog charging and biting at my dogs mostly the bigger one she is 60 pounds and little biscuit is 13 pounds, I was kicking at him and connected a couple of times but he would not stop and my dogs were jumping and I was twisting and in a lot of pain trying to protect my dogs, the owner finally came and grabbed his dog, he did apologise but I was not happy. I swear if I had been carrying that dog would have been put down in a heart beat and I don't give 2 craps of what anyone thinks, if you're not in that situation you have no idea of how you would react. I love dogs and most animals more than I like people but when your life or an animal you love lifes is in danger you only think of saving them and you.

I think you did great !!!!

Ive been in many of those situations and they were pretty recent. Why do you think i got my ccw? To protect myself against many dogs running around loose in my neighborhood.

I found that dogs act differently when theyre about to tear into something vs a friendly curious hyper dog. I looked into non violent means which wouldnt kill the dog. I always gave the dog the benefit of the doubt, definitely only haf seconds to decide and i will admit size did matter. One bite to my arm wasnt going to kill me and it was going to save alot of people time and pain if i did give the dog the benfit of the doubt.

However i found out it wasnt a breed of dog which mattered, it was just the dog. Guess what ****er bit me? A little 5 pound little **** i couldve stomped, the owner was right there too. Then another time running past a trailer park a pitbull and a lab had me, i had them at arms length yelling at them until their owner came. Almost turned real bad. I had a few more instances and i started carrying pepper spray while furiously searching for ways to protect myself. Never found anything.

A gun didnt fit the bill due to what i wanted, and i just learned to keep my headphone volume down, take pepper spray or a knife and take the risk if i wanted to run. Reading dogs was another thing, a beagle and another dog came running at me fast, I decided it wasnt a threat so i didnt kick it. Turned out to be just fine. Had i shot the dog as is the pre emptive measure of others, there would have been some sad owners and a police report.

So yes i know how id react and prepare. i also understand a knife or pepper spray may not work in the end and man im glad i moved out of there.

My roommate laughed at me for being concerned until he too was chased down by dogs, luckily he got away. Said something like 20 dogs came out of the woods howling for him, pretty sure it was adrenaline.

But i think gunowners should act responsibly and stop being so dang paranoid and afraid of getting hurt. Are you going to shoot up a car who may be coming into your lane?
 
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You did the right thing, if attacked you would have been justified I feel by most states. Just make sure of where the bullet is going. Bullets that hit a skull at an angle can riccochet.

I was attacked by a pit bull. In the early 70's when I was an outside phone guy. I was wearing my knee high lineman's boots with a 2nd sole, the 1st thing we did was take them to the cobbler who put cut out cross saw blades between the soles so your feet could take longer times on a pole.

My first kick caught it right by the ear, spun him, I stomped him down and stood on his throat while doing an Irish Clog on his ribs.

The dogs owner was standing next to me and she had no idea what to do. You should have seen her eyes. They never turned it in.

When the dance was over I backed off ready to continue, he limped back into her house, whining. I also used a string of banned words that probably helped.

One of the neighbors saw this and came over to my truck, said we wish you would have killed it, it's bit 1/2 the kids in the neighborhood and killed several pets.

Grew up with neighboring farms and relatives that had large mean surly dogs. Had a little practice.

That same dog treed a phone guy up a pole and wouldn't let him down. He called the CO guy who brought a truck up, backed next to the pole and they sat up the road until the dog left.

A few days after I did the deed with the pit bull that tech and I were going to pull some cable into a building up the road. I saw the Pit in the yard, I stopped, the guy said what in the banned are you doing? I said watch this, he said don't open the truck door he'll eat you. I opened the door and charged him, he ran like the wind to his house. The other tech said what the heck? I said that is the one I trained the other day. He remembers my voice. :)

P.S. I'm a lifer phone guy, I have 10 or 20 good dog stories.
 
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When the dog first approached I talked to him trying to keep his aggression down. The woman was running towards us but no control.

I agree my dog was sending "alpha" signal and the pit went off.

I knew it was coming and held my control.

He didn't get a hold of my dog and never touched me(that would have been immediate dispatch).

He stepped back and I had the barrel a foot from his head waiting for his next move. I told her" I will kill him" She said " I know" His choice was to respond to the owner. I was in control the entire time.

I know what I will do if it happens again.

My question was what would you do?
The same as you, you did well and remained calm. Any closer and we know the outcome, and it would be completely understandable. in Montana we do not put up with out of control viscous animals.

james
 
People have turned this thread into a "Are pitbulls good or bad?" discussion.

The breed doesn't matter. If a dog attacks it deserves to met with equal or greater force.

The man simply asked what we would have done. Nothing more nothing less.
People have also somehow turned this into the dog attacked the person when it never did. It simply ran at someone, betting people turned it into attack simply because pitbull was mentioned, had it said labrador, people would have arrived at different conclusions. It may have been viciously running at someone to attack, but that was not described or explained.
 
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I don't care if someone thinks their precious dog won't hurt anyone, if a large powerful uncontrolled dog comes at me and mine it's going to be dealt with accordingly. I'm not researching the breed, expertly psychoanalyzing your dog to determine its true intentions or waiting till it's canines are sunk into my dogs neck to give it the full benefit of the doubt. No thanks. If I feel it's a threat that's what I have to go with.

I understand the emotional attachment folks have to their dogs, but large powerful dogs are no joke. I darned near was forced to deal with such a situation while the owner was on the other end of the leash. The owner was literally being dragged by the dog gone berzerk toward me and my dog. Had the owner not gained control I would have been forced to. Keep control of your animals. No one wants to be put in a situation to have do it for you.
 
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People have also somehow turned this into the dog attacked the person when it never did. It simply ran at someone, betting people turned it into attack simply because pitbull was mentioned, had it said labrador, people would have arrived at different conclusions. It may have been viciously running at someone to attack, but that was not described or explained.

In a situation I'm not playing Name That Breed. My neighbor had two Goldens, brother and sister. Raised them from pups. One turned out vicious, the other not. Same environment. Good people. Two very different animals.

Keep control of your animals.
 
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People have also somehow turned this into the dog attacked the person when it never did. It simply ran at someone, betting people turned it into attack simply because pitbull was mentioned, had it said labrador, people would have arrived at different conclusions. It may have been viciously running at someone to attack, but that was not described or explained.

The dog took one second and attacked. I had steel toed boots on and fended off two surges. He stepped back and I had him point blank with the safety off. He responded to the woman calling him off. I lowered my gun and let him live.

Reading the above I'm thinking the dog charged and attacked him and his dog, am I crazy ? I'm 6'4" and 280, I grew up in the streets west of Chicago during the race riots of the 60's and had to learn some serious fighting and survival skills, I was a garbage man for 25 years, dealing with hundreds if not thousands of dogs, I am a father of 7, grandfather to 14 and have 1 great grand child, not much scares me and reading all your posts in this thread I can only scratch my head :rolleyes:
 
The dog took one second and attacked. I had steel toed boots on and fended off two surges. He stepped back and I had him point blank with the safety off. He responded to the woman calling him off. I lowered my gun and let him live.

Reading the above I'm thinking the dog charged and attacked him and his dog, am I crazy ? I'm 6'4" and 280, I grew up in the streets west of Chicago during the race riots of the 60's and had to learn some serious fighting and survival skills, I was a garbage man for 25 years, dealing with hundreds if not thousands of dogs, I am a father of 7, grandfather to 14 and have 1 great grand child, not much scares me and reading all your posts in this thread I can only scratch my head :rolleyes:
*** did i read????

You got me. I mustve read someone eles story and gotten it mixed up in this thread. Yup the dog attacked him, now i see how ive caused unneeded conflict, my bad people.
 
I was at a village meeting last night sitting outside the fire barn in the nice weather.

My wife had taken our recently adopted puppy for a walk down the road.

We were discussing out of control dogs in the area When I hear my wife getting loud and upset. I got up to take a look when I hear her start screaming bloody murder. I started running.

She was about a block away. I immediately see a friend's massive Rottweiler (has to be pushing 200 pounds and who has never hurt a fly and has always been a very loving dog) with our little puppy in its mouth shaking it viciously.

The entire rest of the run all I remember is seeing my dog being savaged and hearing my wife screaming. I still didn't know if she had been attacked as well.

Somewhere along the line my 642 got in my hand but there was no way to make a shot. So I fired three shots in the air and that stopped the attack.

But the damage was done. I knew immediately her back was broken. My wife was untouched.

The owner is a partially disabled woman who takes her dog for walks as she rides on her scooter. She comes up can't believe what has happened. He's never done this before. Etc and so on. She even showed me what she referred to as a tazer. And I'm thinking whole lot a good that did. And she's still standing there with her dog still not on a leash. And my dogs dying in the grass. Her dog's not being aggressive at this point. But I still kept my gun in my hand I didn't know if he would start attacking again. I had to ask her to take her dog and get out of there.

We found a vet that would see us and she confirmed what I'd guessed about her back. So we put her to sleep.

People have to control their dogs. This one was always nice as could be. Don't know what set him off. Just came right up and attacked.

I wish I'd been closer.

P.s.- My wife is signed up for the next available ccw course.
 
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Big dogs scare me. But not to be too judgemental, firing shots in the air might not be a good idea.
 
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